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Old 11-02-2010, 11:23 AM   #41
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I'll work on getting that 'real turbo setup' going.
Well, you do have a real turbo setup already. Here's my opinion:
  1. Do all your work yourself. I have had pro mechanics **** my **** up and it's much worse to pay someone to **** it up than for you to do and **** it up for free.
  2. Send your manifold to Turbo Tim or BEGI and get it welded. Save $.
  3. Get a wideband if you don't already have one.
  4. JB weld your W/I IC (properly- sand down surrounding area) and see if it holds. If not, go FMIC but nothing's wrong with a W/I IC -unless- when you go Megasquirt, you see very high AITs indicating your W/I IC is ineffectual
  5. Get nice big injectors
  6. Megasquirt
  7. tune

Keep the rest of your **** and spend the saved cash on a good tune. Then setup your fuel map for a "lean cruise" and target 15.5-16.5AFR. You should have ok mileage that way along with your 220hp. You don't need to change anythign else


BTW gays where is the denooobing? Please don't say it's because she is more knowledgable and has better grammer than 90% of our noobs.
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Old 11-02-2010, 11:28 AM   #42
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You'll hate the spool on a MSM turbo. Even with standalone and everything done, it's got stupid late boost threshhold and a fair amount of lag compared to some of the other common turbos that can be picked up out there. Not to mention that the IHI turbine flange is unique and if you ever feel the need to change, you'll be SOL. I mean, they're OK for stock and OK with basic bolt-ons in a MSM...but nothing to get excited about. It's the kinda thing that if you can land the turbo/mani/downpipe for like $600, then it's not bad.

I remember the old BRP/StageOne Tuning stuff, but I can't for the life of me remember where it came from. I'm pretty sure it wasn't their design. I did find one of your pics of the engine bay..



...and if I had to say, it really looks like the placement of a FM/BEGi manifold
Yeah, I've heard that about those MSM turbos. I like having room to grow. I think I'll probably just stick with what I've got. I really like the 2554R and the fact that it's fully spooled by about 2500rpm.

I've had someone else say that about the placement of it before too... And I can definitely see it.

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Old 11-02-2010, 11:35 AM   #43
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  1. Do all your work yourself. I have had pro mechanics **** my **** up and it's much worse to pay someone to **** it up than for you to do and **** it up for free.
  2. Send your manifold to Turbo Tim or BEGI and get it welded. Save $.
  3. Get a wideband if you don't already have one.
  4. JB weld your W/I IC (properly- sand down surrounding area) and see if it holds. If not, go FMIC but nothing's wrong with a W/I IC -unless- when you go Megasquirt, you see very high AITs indicating your W/I IC is ineffectual
  5. Get nice big injectors
  6. Megasquirt
  7. tune

Keep the rest of your **** and spend the saved cash on a good tune. Then setup your fuel map for a "lean cruise" and target 15.5-16.5AFR. You should have ok mileage that way along with your 220hp. You don't need to change anythign else


BTW gays where is the denooobing? Please don't say it's because she is more knowledgable and has better grammer than 90% of our noobs.
I definitely know the importance of a good tune and plan on dropping whatever I need to to make sure that I get a good one. I figure I'll get a couple tunes set: one for fuel economy, one moderate tune for DD'ing, and the ***** out tune for weekend nights tune. Lol. I'm not really THAT concerned with the mileage. I have a lot of fun in that car so I'll take the good with the bad anyday.

I really haven't had a problem with my W/A IC since I got the giant gash in it repaired at a local welding shop so that's a non-issue now. But I'm definitely upgrading to a FMIC ASAP because that W/AIC heatsoaks like a bitch at 7.5psi and will be completely overwhelmed at the 12psi or so I'm wanting to make when it's all said and done.

But yep, pretty much planning on following along those lines. 550s, DIYPNP, nice tune. And I don't have a wideband, still. I've been meaning to get one since I got the car but have had a million other things come up. Needless to say I'm a lazy idiot. Lol.

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Old 11-02-2010, 11:47 AM   #44
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I figure I'll get a couple tunes set: one for fuel economy, one moderate tune for DD'ing, and the ***** out tune for weekend nights tune. .
You really only need one tune. The Megasquirt does fuel and timing via a load/rpm grid. The low load cells take care of your DDing/economy and high cells cover WOT. The only thing you might want to change up is your timing map and I wouldn't really recommend it.
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Ok, I was around Brant when he designed the system. He bought my 1.8 hks manifold and gave me a JGS manfiold. I remember the kit when it first came out. I was like "MAF" in the charge pipe. But, witht he low boost that he wanted people to run it wasnt to bad. Anyways, are the studs that the turbo mount to pointing up or towards the fenderwell?

He may have used my HSK manifold for the cast of his kit.
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and yes, He really liked the 5th injector setup. Almost had me running one until i discoverd mx6gt injectors.
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Old 11-02-2010, 12:26 PM   #47
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You really only need one tune. The Megasquirt does fuel and timing via a load/rpm grid. The low load cells take care of your DDing/economy and high cells cover WOT. The only thing you might want to change up is your timing map and I wouldn't really recommend it.
Oh I see. I was a little confused about that. Thanks for clearing that up for me.

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Ok, I was around Brant when he designed the system. He bought my 1.8 hks manifold and gave me a JGS manfiold. I remember the kit when it first came out. I was like "MAF" in the charge pipe. But, witht he low boost that he wanted people to run it wasnt to bad. Anyways, are the studs that the turbo mount to pointing up or towards the fenderwell?

He may have used my HSK manifold for the cast of his kit.
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and yes, He really liked the 5th injector setup. Almost had me running one until i discoverd mx6gt injectors.
Oh you're great. Lol. Interesting. I feel like we're getting closer to figuring this **** out. Lol. I believe that it's pointing towards the fenderwell but I'm really not 100% certain and I can't really tell from the pics that I have. I don't have my car right in front of me to look or else I would.

I've heard that the BRP kit was kind of a kit that was put together based around other parts, and if so I would love nothing more than to figure out where the mani came from..... Lol

Kristen

EDIT: where the turbo manifold bolts to the is definitely pointing upwards

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Say lol again and I warn your ***. It is not punctuation. ****.
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Old 11-02-2010, 01:14 PM   #49
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wtf is there still to talk about.

1) Get megasquirt
2) Get bigger injectors (like 550s)
3) remove 5th injector and whatever jurry rigged POS thats running it
4) Tune
5) Ditch W/A and DIY a FMIC with over the radiator charge pipes (I would show you how mine was setup but photobucket is broken)
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Say lol again and I warn your ***. It is not punctuation. ****.
umad?

Look, I'm just on here trying to get some help. That's why I lurk this forum everyday and have gone through the ordeal of making this thread, not to be criticized about how I'm a girl or because I say 'lol' a lot, but to get help. It's really not that serious...

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wtf is there still to talk about.

1) Get megasquirt
2) Get bigger injectors (like 550s)
3) remove 5th injector and whatever jurry rigged POS thats running it
4) Tune
5) Ditch W/A and DIY a FMIC with over the radiator charge pipes (I would show you how mine was setup but photobucket is broken)
Right. This is exactly what I have planned to do. That's not what this thread is meant to discuss though. I'm trying to deal with a cracked manifold and see if anyone on here knows anything about BRP.

Thanks for the input though.

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Old 11-02-2010, 03:26 PM   #51
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dont worry about these other guys. I dont think they even know where this discussion started. You know what you need to do for tuning.

Now about what this thread is about...

1. BEGI/FM sytle
2. greddy/hks
3. bottom of actual hks (no damn top views at all on the web)
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Just from the picture on the first page, im highly doubting its a replica or an hks manifold, the turbo is not bottom mount. Look how the compressor sits relative to the head, and you can kinc of see how the turbine and manifold would be sitting both centerline of the exhaust ports relativ e to their own center line.

Mildly hard to tell from my droid, but last night I remember it looking much like an fmI or2 setup, still think so. Better shots would help obviously.



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The hks is top mounted man.
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Does this help?

http://www.stageonetuning.com/garret...aka-gt25r.aspx

See "View more images"
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umad?

Look, I'm just on here trying to get some help. That's why I lurk this forum everyday and have gone through the ordeal of making this thread, not to be criticized about how I'm a girl or because I say 'lol' a lot, but to get help. It's really not that serious...
Don't care, we have a grammar warning button for men too. Not mad, just saying. Back to the original topic.
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Does this help?

http://www.stageonetuning.com/garret...aka-gt25r.aspx

See "View more images"
Thats just a picture of the turbo. She is wanting to know what kind of manifold would work.

Funny thing is Stage One are all of the guys from BRP when BRP fell out. So it is kinda like BRP without Brant. Barker bought BRP out.
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Look, I'm just on here trying to get some help. That's why I lurk this forum everyday and have gone through the ordeal of making this thread, not to be criticized about how I'm a girl or because I say 'lol' a lot, but to get help. It's really not that serious...
Seriously.


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Just from the picture on the first page, im highly doubting its a replica or an hks manifold, the turbo is not bottom mount. Look how the compressor sits relative to the head, and you can kinc of see how the turbine and manifold would be sitting both centerline of the exhaust ports relativ e to their own center line.

Mildly hard to tell from my droid, but last night I remember it looking much like an fmI or2 setup, still think so. Better shots would help obviously.



Lol
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lol

I'm a happy person. And I don't think you lol too much. I really think some of these guys need to lol a little more.
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my experiences with stage 1 was bad. About 4 years back they were making their sc kits... long story short i waited 2 months, got tired of their weekly excuse bs and asked for my money back.. took them a month and a half to write me a check...

I wouldn't be surprised if the kits are made the same exact way. Wouldn't buy one even if they write "turbo not hit block" in the description.
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lol

Seriously.


lol


lol

lol

I'm a happy person. And I don't think you lol too much. I really think some of these guys need to lol a little more.
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