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-   -   If I build around GT2560 will log mani be a hindrance comp. to a SSM -also DP design? (https://www.miataturbo.net/prefabbed-turbo-kits-3/if-i-build-around-gt2560-will-log-mani-hindrance-comp-ssm-also-dp-design-41879/)

Braineack 12-09-2009 12:29 PM

you're only leaving a little on the table with the cast manifold, while tim's manifolds are pretty much ideal, in your situation, you're probably best to snag a cast manifold and DP and just make it happen.

If you wanna pinch pennies, source a good SR20 T25 turbo, will perform like a GT2554.

'99 with one:
http://www.boostedmiata.com/gallery2...serialNumber=2

Landrew 12-09-2009 12:39 PM

Yes, just need to get things going on my budget build- I havn't even had a ride in a non-normally aspirated Miata yet !!! (I have in a Viper ACR so i'm ok for now)

I really just need to get some boost!

This week we got a foot of snow and had mornings of -27C so even stock I am having wheel spin and it makes me not want to add any power or work on a car. I still keep watching the parts for sale forum so we'll see.

Laur3ns 12-09-2009 01:01 PM

If I had to do it all over again, I'd go Absurdflow and v-bands everywhere. But I'm kind of serious about it. I track my car, I've broken studs before, etc.

For a street car and stock block, i would not bother myself.

flier129 12-09-2009 02:13 PM


Originally Posted by Spookyfish (Post 493060)
If I had to do it all over again, I'd go Absurdflow and v-bands everywhere. But I'm kind of serious about it. I track my car, I've broken studs before, etc.

For a street car and stock block, i would not bother myself.

Im pondering on the same thing. But I don't track the car like spooky and others on the forums, mostly autox. I'll probly end up with the original absurd manifold and bellmouth downpipe

Landrew 12-09-2009 02:13 PM

How do people feel about the FM manifold and cast DP outlet ? I found a set of those for under $400 - worth it?

Braineack 12-09-2009 02:13 PM

it works.

flier129 12-09-2009 02:15 PM


Originally Posted by Braineack (Post 493105)
it works.

Yeap

I just want more flow.

Landrew 12-09-2009 02:15 PM

That doesn't "boost" my confidence....

As in it'll get by or wowee thats great and soooo worth it

flier129 12-09-2009 02:23 PM

For that price, its worth it

Braineack 12-09-2009 02:25 PM

don't get me wrong its a solid unit, it's just not designed to be the most efficient setup out there, nevertheless, it's not close to the worst either.

minime 12-09-2009 02:47 PM


Originally Posted by Landrew (Post 493029)
Sounds like the Absurdflow + 3" all the way back can turn the 54 into a 60 for spool.

You have that backwards - you will get quicker spool on the 2560 w/ the tubular manifold and a 3" downpipe/exhaust

I am the guy that is awaiting Tim's next absurdflow Vband setup and I can hardly wait to dry hump that thing. I also bought one of Abe's(Artech) 1.6L manifolds and donwpipes for MiniMe(my previous DD street/track car) as I decided to turbo it again after the engine is rebuilt. That said, I would not hesitate to get a log style manifold for street use. I would only go V band and tubular on a car that sees track use, or if I had too much munny;)

Landrew 12-09-2009 02:48 PM

I did have that backwards - thanks

Munny is the key....

Faeflora 12-09-2009 04:26 PM

You're wasting your money. Just get a log, floor the fucker and wait the .1 second longer for your shit to spool. There's no point to a tubular without megapower.

Landrew 12-09-2009 04:32 PM

I hear you.

TurboTim 12-09-2009 04:38 PM

I think $400 is a good price for a manifold and the hardest part of the downpipe to make. There's no used absurdflow stuff because I haven't build many. it's just me in my garage in my spare time. I only sell stuff cheap when I build it w/o a buyer in mind then need the cash quick. I have a twin turbo setup for $1800 shipped in the classifieds ;) It's not what you want in terms of quick spool unfortunately.

Landrew 12-09-2009 04:43 PM

Your stuff sounds so good that I doubt it would be resold unless someone went to a V8

evank 12-09-2009 05:26 PM


Originally Posted by Landrew (Post 493029)
3" piping all the way back as well. I wasnt sure if you did that too.

Yeah, Tim builds that. Here's what he built for me. Click the pictures in here for bigger versions:
Shore Motorsports: Fabrication & Installation

And here is one he built for Paul:
Part 1: http://www.shoremotorsports.com/pics...aulBEGIdp5.JPG
Part 2: http://www.shoremotorsports.com/pics...aulBEGIdp7.JPG

Landrew 12-09-2009 06:01 PM

very nice - thats an option to consider as well - thanks

Stephanie Turner 12-10-2009 04:42 PM

The tubular manifolds are fine. They work great, and help to provide lower end spool. But, they are not as reliable as the cast manifold.

The SSM is the BEGI-S kit with "S"tainless "M"anifold. Basically, a BEGI-S turbo kit with the S4 Manifold and downpipe. Parts from the cast manifold and stainless manifold are not interchangeable. If you are not tracking the car, do not worry about the studs stretching.
Stephanie

SolarYellow510 12-13-2009 01:27 PM


Originally Posted by Landrew (Post 493040)
(I have in a Viper ACR so i'm ok for now)

I love that you're here!


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