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thenuge26 07-16-2013 09:40 AM

"Hey guys, I'm just here for some advice"

Don't run the voodoo, if you want to learn get a MS and tune.

"I don't want to tune, I'm just going to do it my way"

Then why the fuck did you even create this thread? If you don't want our advice, then GTFO. Or do you just want us to rub your dick and tell you it's the biggest we've seen?

This one's not even interesting, just ban him already.

sixshooter 07-16-2013 11:06 AM

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Erat 07-16-2013 11:29 AM

V's being nice, Steve is being the dick....
What's going on here??


Just to flame the fire a little.

OP: These people are telling you these things because we've been there / done that. We know what works. We've been doing it for years, some more than others. If we tell you one thing, it's not because you're wrong but because our way is better(and usually more affordable).

BTW, from what i've read from you it was "i've never installed a turbo before but i'm looking to try it" (great, we've all been there and that's why we're here now to help). BUT, you also said "i don't know how to tune, and really don't care much to learn". (well what the frig is it?)
Do you want to learn or not. If not, keep on m.net. If you want to learn something, listen to what people around here have to say.

sixshooter 07-16-2013 12:38 PM

Megasquirt has an autotune feature through the TunerStudio program, but you knew that because you did lots of reading over here already.

I really don't like when people say they have done research and reached a conclusion that only someone who has not done much research could reach. MS comes with a base tune. Your car will run on this. There is an autotune feature for fine tuning VE. Minor adjustments to idle parameters are all that are usually required unless you want to dig deeper. Some people (probably most) don't ever touch the base spark table.

I'll spoon feed you, Nancy:
https://www.miataturbo.net/ms-labs-m...ms-labs-69930/

alaskansasquatch 07-16-2013 12:46 PM

I was aware of auto tune I wasnt sure how it worked, I can still change my order it hasnt shipped yet, the basr tune on ms is for a stock na miata correct? That won't work with a turbo set up, excuse myself I dotn know much but im guessing you do autotune and drive around amd let it tune itself from the base map it comes with? Does ir literally plug into the factory harness and play people talk abiut re arranging pins ms2 and ms3 im sure are different I wouldn't know which one to get , I have macbook which im pretty sure wont work with ms software so id have to get a windows to run the software too, this is what kept me from.ms I wanna learn to tune but I wanna make sure I know what im getting into, so yyou guys csn tell me how it works would be cool without dildo pics or giant cucumbers...

18psi 07-16-2013 12:57 PM

All the mspnp units are completely plug and play. Hence PNP

thenuge26 07-16-2013 12:59 PM

Almost everything you just typed is wrong, and shows how little reading you have actually done.

But there is hope yet. When I joined I wanted a FFS supercharger because I thought turbos were too laggy. But I started reading instead of bitching, and I learned.

FFS tunerstudio works on LINUX, of course it will fucking work on your macbook. THERE'S A GODDAMN MAC VERSION TO DOWNLOAD!

STFU and start reading if you want to learn. Buy your doodoo box and go back to m.net if you don't.

sixshooter 07-16-2013 01:06 PM

Don't get an MSPNP, get a MS3 Basic from Reverent. You tell him what injectors you will be using and a few details about your setup and he sends it to you with a basemap to match already loaded on it.

alaskansasquatch 07-16-2013 01:24 PM

Im on diyautotune lookinh at megasquirt pnp gen2, this looks simple enough

alaskansasquatch 07-16-2013 01:36 PM

How much does reverent charge for ms3?

thenuge26 07-16-2013 01:56 PM


Originally Posted by Erat (Post 1032406)
V's being nice, Steve is being the dick....
What's going on here??

That time of month.

Also this weekend I got to drive my little bro's GTI with intake, downpipe, cat & resonator delete and 'stage 2' tune (whatever that means, supposedly ~280tq/240hp). Doing so reminded me how much I miss boost.

pdexta 07-16-2013 01:58 PM


Originally Posted by alaskansasquatch (Post 1032492)
How much does reverent charge for ms3?

When I ordered my megasquirt it was marginally more for a MS3 from Reverant than a MS2 from DIY. The downfall is Reverant's are built to order (or they were a several months ago) so there's a wait involved, PM him and he'll send you prices and ETA. I went with DIY because I was impatient, either one will meet your needs.

Glad to see your warming up to our suggestions. You really can't go wrong with all the megasquirt offers at it's pricepoint. Get the stock car up and running on the megasquirt and play around with tuning it. Once you get it figured out then bolt the turbo up. It'll make the turbo process much simpler. And should you choose, give you a very simple/cheap path to well past 200whp.

alaskansasquatch 07-16-2013 02:00 PM

My friend has a gti with the stage 2 tune, they base the "stage" off of modification like a cold air intske and exhaust would be stage one, with a new downpipe they can tune it differently for "stage 2" and etc...hes close to 300 whp in his

alaskansasquatch 07-16-2013 02:01 PM

Looking at how to install it I unplug the stock ecu, plug in megasquirt, run the vacuum hose from the intake manifold to the megasquirt and then im done (I csn optionally change from MAF to a sensor correct?

alaskansasquatch 07-16-2013 02:07 PM

IF what I said is correct I would rather have the pnpms2 I csn order it change my fm voodoo to a fm2 without electronics and save 200 dollars total, so theres no special things I will need right? The pnpms2 comes complete to install? Just download a good base map to start it up

thenuge26 07-16-2013 02:38 PM

While it is possible to tune the MS with the MAF, you are better off getting rid of it since it will become a huge restriction once you add boost. It's not the optimal place for the AIT sensor, but when I install mine I plan on removing the MAF and replacing it with a piece of silicon plumbed for the IAT. Once you go turbo you will want the IAT on the cold side of the IC to prevent heatsoak.

alaskansasquatch 07-16-2013 02:40 PM

If I buy ms pnp 2 will that be everything I need sensors and all? Or do I have to buy that all separate

thenuge26 07-16-2013 03:15 PM

OMFG read noob. We wrote this shit down so we don't have to type it out every goddamn time someone joins the site.


I tried holding your hand for some things, now I see that was a mistake, as you now think all your questions will be answered by hand holders. That's what I get for trying to be a nice guy.

FRT_Fun 07-16-2013 03:47 PM

No good deed goes unpunished.

alaskansasquatch 07-16-2013 04:11 PM

Asks dumb question, braces for dildo pics.... lol


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