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Chilicharger665 05-08-2015 10:44 AM

I sold my MSM over a year ago because I was tired of waiting, so I definitely don't need one lol.

EO2K 05-08-2015 10:57 AM


Originally Posted by Chilicharger665 (Post 1229774)
I sold my MSM over a year ago because I was tired of waiting, so I definitely don't need one lol.

Good, now you can buy a lighter, simpler NA8 for the kit :party:

shuiend 05-08-2015 10:57 AM

With how forward you have the turbo is it AC/PS compatible? Will you be offering just the manifold and downpipe? In the past you have said it would most likely be an all or nothing deal. I will probably be in for a manifold/turbo/downpipe setup. Need to get a 6258 to test against all my other turbos.

soviet 05-08-2015 11:30 AM

looks like it will have the turbo pretty high up. cast stainless is baller.

Dunning Kruger Affect 05-08-2015 11:35 AM

Will this work on my ND Club?

Savington 05-08-2015 11:35 AM

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Yes, it will be A/C and P/S compatible. I will offer manifolds and downpipes separately, but the manifold/turbo/DP combo will be priced such that you'll always spend more money buying the turbo elsewhere.

e: Pic of turbo location in the engine bay so you guys can get an idea of how it will sit.

Attachment 237792

soviet 05-08-2015 11:53 AM

8mm studs?

Savington 05-08-2015 12:14 PM


Originally Posted by soviet (Post 1229805)
8mm studs?

Yes, bespoke 8mm Inconel.

curly 05-08-2015 12:19 PM

Do you sell the adapter to make the EFR turbo bolt to the stock cross over pipe, or should I contact JimB?

codrus 05-08-2015 12:23 PM


Originally Posted by soviet (Post 1229805)
8mm studs?

Inconel zip-ties.

--Ian

18psi 05-08-2015 12:28 PM

:laugh:

Lincoln Logs 05-08-2015 12:37 PM


Originally Posted by Savington (Post 1229678)
There are some wrench relief cuts that aren't shown here, but the fundamenal shape is what you will get out of the box.

I want to point out, it is THIS kind of feature that you only get when a part is designed properly from start to finish. One of my biggest complaints my previous turbo set up was you could never service the damn thing without special tools (i.e. a few wrenches that were hacked up).

ztunerz 05-09-2015 07:21 PM

I have been lurking for a while on the forum but wanted to add that I am definitely in on this setup. Building a bottom end ATM and most likely the timing will be right. Great job guys !

Harry

timk 05-10-2015 05:34 AM


Originally Posted by curly (Post 1229829)
Do you sell the adapter to make the EFR turbo bolt to the stock cross over pipe, or should I contact JimB?

:giggle:

Savington 05-10-2015 02:46 PM


Originally Posted by ztunerz (Post 1230105)
I have been lurking for a while on the forum but wanted to add that I am definitely in on this setup. Building a bottom end ATM and most likely the timing will be right. Great job guys !

Harry

Sounds good :)

IMO one of the coolest things about this setup will be its ability to easily scale from low to high power levels. The physical footprint between the 6258, 6758, and 7163 is identical - that is to say, the turbochargers look identical from the outside. The only difference is the wheel sizing inside the housings.

As a result, you can start off with a 6258 and a low-boost cannister on a stock engine and make 200whp at the blink of an eye. Then, upgrade the bottom end and ramp the boost to ~325whp on the same turbo with the appropriate supporting mods (IM, full exhaust, etc). Then, without changing anything except for the turbocharger (same IC, same downpipe, same manifold), you can drop a 6758 into the car and make 375-400whp on pump gas (or a 7163 and make Too Much Power). No need to buy a separate downpipe or a new EWG or anything else - just swap the turbo and retune for more power.

aidandj 05-10-2015 03:17 PM

What do you think you could theoretically make with a 7163 on e85? Could an eBay rod, and forged piston build handle it or would you need more and better stuff at that power level.

turbofan 05-10-2015 04:02 PM

I really see the easy upgrade path as a benefit for TSE as well as for resale for customers. TSE has to build one Mani and one DP to provide turbo kits from 200 - 500 HP.

For the customer, they can part out their Mani and DP down the road and it'll work for a greater variety of builds.

But of course the easy upgrade path is a huge benefit too.

Really excited to see this happening. Curious about GB pricing but would be hard to rationalize upgrading from my current setup.

18psi 05-10-2015 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by aidandj (Post 1230216)
What do you think you could theoretically make with a 7163 on e85? Could an eBay rod, and forged piston build handle it or would you need more and better stuff at that power level.

Not the same car, so this is for entertainment purposes only, but here are a few ALLOFIT plots.

http://oi61.tinypic.com/6glrau.jpg
https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1431290393
https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1431290393


Good luck controlling that buwahahaha

Savington 05-10-2015 05:19 PM


Originally Posted by aidandj (Post 1230216)
What do you think you could theoretically make with a 7163 on e85? Could an eBay rod, and forged piston build handle it or would you need more and better stuff at that power level.

Honestly, who knows? That's a 525whp turbo IMO. I'd love to see someone try it at 30psi on e85 but I think most people will be happier with the 6758.

Chooofoojoo 05-10-2015 06:34 PM


Originally Posted by Savington (Post 1230237)
I'd love to see someone try it at 30psi on e85.

How much would you? :idea: Willing test subject right here! :giggle:


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