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TurboTim 05-20-2015 02:26 PM


Originally Posted by Savington (Post 1229678)

Well Andrew, that's one way to prevent the EWG from falling off the first time you take it on track! ;)

Nice job.

EO2K 05-20-2015 02:36 PM

Andrew, any chance you could show us what the downpipe looks like? On the bench is cool but in situ would be even better.

Specifically, I'm curious as to how much clearance there is around the brake and heater hoses, and the radius on the downpipe.

Also, those pics are glorious. I saw them before on my phone and thought they were renders, not pics of actual items. In SLA they look otherworldly.

adub_mx5 05-20-2015 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by aidandj (Post 1232862)
Oops, that came off a lot more serious that I meant it too. Rarely am I actually serious online.

Its ok I'm a sensitive Miata owner who loves forced induction and being touched by men so I tend to get bullied in the forums

EO2K 05-20-2015 02:53 PM


Originally Posted by adub_mx5 (Post 1233191)
Its ok I'm a sensitive Miata owner who loves forced induction and being touched by men so I tend to get bullied in the forums

See? You fit right in. :bigtu:

Savington 05-20-2015 03:03 PM


Originally Posted by EO2K (Post 1233189)
Andrew, any chance you could show us what the downpipe looks like? On the bench is cool but in situ would be even better.

Specifically, I'm curious as to how much clearance there is around the brake and heater hoses, and the radius on the downpipe.

Nothing close enough to production, so any pics of the one DP that does exist would just confuse people. It will be 3" from the turbo back, with 3" CLR bends. I would have preferred 4.5" but it's just not doable with A/C and P/S in the engine bay too. If the stars align, it will be CNC compound mandrel bent. It will also play nice with both stock exhausts and full 3" units alike.


Also, those pics are glorious. I saw them before on my phone and thought they were renders, not pics of actual items. In SLA they look otherworldly.
Thank you sir. I think it's way beyond what people have come to expect from cast-manifold setups. :party:

shuiend 05-20-2015 03:06 PM


Originally Posted by Savington (Post 1233212)
Thank you sir. I think it's way beyond what people have come to expect from cast-manifold setups. :party:

I expect a 1.6 cast-manifold. :rofl::rofl::rofl:

M2Ken 05-20-2015 05:18 PM

Any consideration of an EGT sensor in the collector? I am perhaps one of the last people that still use an EGT gauge, so in either way. However I prefer to hang on to that relic...

Savington 05-20-2015 05:33 PM


Originally Posted by M2Ken (Post 1233258)
Any consideration of an EGT sensor in the collector? I am perhaps one of the last people that still use an EGT gauge, so in either way. However I prefer to hang on to that relic...

Not an integrated one, no. It adds cost to every manifold for a feature that, in reality, few will actually use. The manifold will be thick enough to drill/tap for an EGT bung anywhere you like.

M2Ken 05-20-2015 06:19 PM


Originally Posted by Savington (Post 1233262)
Not an integrated one, no. It adds cost to every manifold for a feature that, in reality, few will actually use. The manifold will be thick enough to drill/tap for an EGT bung anywhere you like.

Thank you for the explanation. In reality, few will definitely use as these are relics of past tuning practices.

Der_Idiot 05-20-2015 06:56 PM

^ Don't feel like too much of a dinosaur, I'm adding one myself. More information is more better! But drilling/tapping one is pretty trivial as long as the manifold has the thickness not to crack which I'll trust Sav on that one. :D

codrus 05-20-2015 08:29 PM


Originally Posted by Der_Idiot (Post 1233280)
^ Don't feel like too much of a dinosaur, I'm adding one myself. More information is more better! But drilling/tapping one is pretty trivial as long as the manifold has the thickness not to crack which I'll trust Sav on that one. :D

It'd be nice if there was a convenient flat part that was easy to drill, vs trying to do it on a surface that's curved in two dimensions, but... :)

--Ian

JasonC SBB 05-20-2015 11:30 PM

I drilled my turbine housing for an EGT sensor.

swimming108 05-21-2015 03:24 PM


Originally Posted by aidandj (Post 1232868)
Yes, I have an actual question. In the past we've seen blown stock blocks with just wastegate efr pressure. Thoughts on this? Was it had tuning? Do you expect to easily stay under stock rod limits with this kit or is it assumed it will be going on a built motor.

Not yet sure how this manifold will differ in performance compared to the one i am using, but i will agree that the EFR is quite difficult to keep within the stock rod limits. My 6258 destroyed my old tired stock 2000 block on the low pressure actuator can with 1mm of preload. I will admit that my engine had been thoroughly abused for the previous 65K miles with a ShanghiT28 at ~220whp. I am sure it was quite ready to blow without the extra headroom of the EFR and someone with a healthy stock block will likely see better results.

With that said, it looks like his turbo position is further forward than mine. I am sure this is allowing TSE to have a straighter downpipe configuration. I am curious to see if this will provide a more controllable boost level through the RPM range.

Props to Andrew for developing such a high quality piece of hardware at such an affordable cost for our cars. I am loving the motor he built for me and i am sure these turbo kits will perform spectacularly for us.

Jesse99James 05-22-2015 05:49 PM


Originally Posted by swimming108 (Post 1233573)
I will admit that my engine had been thoroughly abused for the previous 65K miles with a ShanghiT28 at ~22whp.

Glad I waited and didn't buy the Shanghai setup! :rofl:

Twodoor 05-24-2015 12:44 AM


Originally Posted by Savington (Post 1232866)
Now that we've all touched cocks and bonded over it, can the discussion get back on topic?

Huuuh? I thought touching cocks WAS the topic... am I in the wrong forum?

Keith

sixshooter 05-24-2015 07:52 AM


Originally Posted by Twodoor (Post 1234220)
Huuuh? I thought touching cocks WAS the topic... am I in the wrong forum?

Keith

This is the touching cocks section. I'm sure an actual vendor's section formal announcement thread will pop up once the cock touching concludes with a big release. This simply began as a speculation thread. There will be much tighter controls on BS in the formal thread, I am certain.

This thread started in April of 2012 with a speculation of a summer of 2012 kit release.

I'm going to advise Swimming to maybe let someone else tune his car moving forward.

Joe Mauch 05-25-2015 01:21 PM

I subscribed to this thread back in 2013, I find it both sad and amusing that I still get notifications in my gmail about replies because I'm still really hoping there's going to be a post one day saying this kit is for sale, here's pictures of it, here's a video of it on the track, and here's X,Y,Z's impressions and here's the price and options.

le sigh

Savington 05-25-2015 03:50 PM


Originally Posted by Joe Mauch (Post 1234511)
I subscribed to this thread back in 2013, I find it both sad and amusing that I still get notifications in my gmail about replies because I'm still really hoping there's going to be a post one day saying this kit is for sale, here's pictures of it, here's a video of it on the track, and here's X,Y,Z's impressions and here's the price and options.

le sigh

You do realize I posted pictures of the manifold three pages ago, right? And talked about pricing? :party:

post 471, in which I talk lots about the progress, post pictures, and discuss pricing

gfeeley 05-25-2015 05:05 PM


Originally Posted by Savington (Post 1234541)
You do realize I posted pictures of the manifold three pages ago, right? And talked about pricing? :party:

post 471, in which I talk lots about the progress, post pictures, and discuss pricing

and i just got lars mkturbo. i guess ill be in two first run group buys :party::drool:

shuiend 05-29-2015 12:53 PM


Originally Posted by gfeeley (Post 1234551)
and i just got lars mkturbo. i guess ill be in two first run group buys :party::drool:

On the plus side, my setup is less then just the turbo on the TSE setup. On the downside, the TSE setup should be better then mine in every other way. I see it as 2 completely different ends of the market. TSE if you want to track the car, MKTurbo if you are a starving artist.

I will most likely be jumping in on a TSE group buy for shits and giggles. I need even more setups in my garage.


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