I can't wait for this kit to become a kit and have a few additional years of enmasse track testing!
In the meantime, Rotrex! |
Originally Posted by thumpetto007
(Post 1318765)
I can't wait for this kit to become a kit and have a few additional years of enmasse track testing!
In the meantime, Rotrex! The driving experience is simply too different to compare them. Are they reliable on track? Yes, when properly installed, but our turbo kit will match that reliability. I know what it takes to do that. |
Originally Posted by Savington
(Post 1318873)
There are customers who would be happy with a Rotrex, and there are customers who would be happy with our turbo setup, but there is very little overlap between those two groups (in my opinion).
The driving experience is simply too different to compare them. Are they reliable on track? Yes, when properly installed, but our turbo kit will match that reliability. I know what it takes to do that. Thanks Andrew! |
Originally Posted by Savington
(Post 1318873)
IMO, the Rotrex isn't a competitor to this kit. Rotrex customers hold throttle response above all else, and are willing to sacrifice low-end torque to get it. Our kit focuses on transient response as well, but our customers aren't willing to sacrifice the monster mid-range torque of a turbocharger to get it. There are customers who would be happy with a Rotrex, and there are customers who would be happy with our turbo setup, but there is very little overlap between those two groups (in my opinion).
The driving experience is simply too different to compare them. Are they reliable on track? Yes, when properly installed, but our turbo kit will match that reliability. I know what it takes to do that. I think he's saying that until your kit is complete and has proper customer thrashing hours (days, months, years?) under it's belt, the brotrex is about the only other complete and tried/proven "solution" for now........and he's about right. |
Anyone have photos of the turbo to manifold hardware? I am interested in just getting the hardware kit. Looking to see just how tight the tight spots are. I read through the thread, saw some issues on page 11, but the guys never posted pix.
Thank you all! |
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Our EFR downpipe inlet flange vs. the competition. That little raised step allows our downpipe to center perfectly on the turbine housing. The proto DP doesn't have this little step and it is a huge pain in the ass to install, and even when I think I have it right, it still isn't centered. This flange will self-center and make misalignment virtually impossible.
The little things matter :) Attachment 232683 |
Oh man.
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Originally Posted by Savington
(Post 1320275)
Our EFR downpipe inlet flange vs. the competition. That little raised step allows our downpipe to center perfectly on the turbine housing. The proto DP doesn't have this little step and it is a huge pain in the ass to install, and even when I think I have it right, it still isn't centered. This flange will self-center and make misalignment virtually impossible.
The little things matter :) https://i.imgur.com/9Ck3qybl.jpg? |
Originally Posted by vteckiller2000
(Post 1320295)
Looks like my Vibrant flange ;)
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The very cheapest V bands allow the exhaust tube to slip right through them. I like these because you can slip it through and out the other side 1-2mm, like above.
Dann |
Originally Posted by Savington
(Post 1320275)
Our EFR downpipe inlet flange vs. the competition. That little raised step allows our downpipe to center perfectly on the turbine housing. The proto DP doesn't have this little step and it is a huge pain in the ass to install, and even when I think I have it right, it still isn't centered. This flange will self-center and make misalignment virtually impossible.
The little things matter :) : Without being aware of it, most wouldn't appreciate how simple it is to mate the two parts effectively unless they'd done this before without the aligning lip. Many V-band leaks are probably due to mis-alignment, this eliminates that possibility. Anything that eases installation and makes it fool-proof is worth paying for IMO, I hate "dicking around" for hours on something that's not quite right. |
Originally Posted by Lokiel
(Post 1320315)
I hate "dicking around" for hours on something that's not quite right.
This all the things |
How exactly does one misalign a v-band connection?
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Originally Posted by Alternative
(Post 1321365)
How exactly does one misalign a v-band connection?
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Originally Posted by Savington
(Post 1298442)
I did grind the locking tabs on the Stage 8s slightly, but it wasn't required to install them - I just wanted them to sit a little closer to the turbine housing. The nuts clear the turbine housing without any issue. This is an M8 kit, not our old M10 kit.
Originally Posted by Savington
(Post 1298449)
I'm not sure what to say, since I'm using our prototypes right now, and they definitely fit.
Our prototype M8 EFR stud kit (production except for stud length) is pictured below. I trimmed two of the clips for aesthetics, but the top rear clip is untrimmed and fits perfectly. https://i.imgur.com/rB2dpyb.png? |
Just do exactly what the instructions say. Three clips, Resbond on the lower/rear stud/nut. There are no typos.
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So what is EFR specific about the $130 setup I got vs the $100 Garrett M8x1.25 kit? I knew that corner was a tight fit and assumed the EFR kit had a way around that. Specific stud lengths? I have an ARTech tubular manifold so I don't know if these will work vs the others, I just got the EFR kit cause that's what I have.
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The EFR kit uses unique stud lengths.
The instructions clearly state that 3 locks and Resbond on the lower nut should be used. If that didn't work, I wouldn't have instructed you to do it that way. |
Originally Posted by Savington
(Post 1322269)
The EFR kit uses unique stud lengths.
The instructions clearly state that 3 locks and Resbond on the lower nut should be used. If that didn't work, I wouldn't have instructed you to do it that way. |
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Received the TSE manifold back from Competition Coatings, Competition Coatings QLD, during the week:
https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1460169779 https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1460169779 https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1460169779 https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1460169779 Looks great but I lost the TRACKSPEED branding along the long runner :( It's probably too expensive, but for the next generation of the cast, consider adding it as raised lettering (if it is expensive, maybe just brand it with "TSE" - that would fit on the short front runner too and be more visible). |
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