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Grunt Z 12-01-2009 11:49 PM

Turbo kit that gives highest WHP
 
Hi everyone, I'm new to the forum and my girlfriend and I recently purchased a 2009 base MX-5. I know it's drive by wire so it's a little more complicated to boost but I just wanted to know what turbo or supercharger kits are available for MY 2009. Any help with be appreciated, thanks!

18psi 12-01-2009 11:49 PM


Originally Posted by Grunt Z (Post 489457)
Hi everyone, I'm new to the forum and my girlfriend and I recently purchased a 2009 base MX-5. I know it's drive by wire so it's a little more complicated to boost but I just wanted to know what kits are available for MY 2009. Any help with be appreciated, thanks!

OH

MY

LORD


Turbo kit that gives highest WHP
:laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:
I think I pee'd myself.

SKMetalworks 12-01-2009 11:52 PM

All the information you asked can be answered by spending 5 seconds in the google search engine.

mgeoffriau 12-01-2009 11:52 PM

Weird, I want the turbo kit with the highest crank HP.

18psi 12-01-2009 11:53 PM

http://www.max-boost.co.uk/max-boost.../big_turbo.jpg

Grunt Z 12-01-2009 11:53 PM

Sorry I meant to say highest whp on a stock engine. I tried googling it and haven't come up with anything for model year 2009. All I get is 2007 or below. Flyin miata only gives kits for 2005 and below. I'm not sure if those are drive by wire.

18psi 12-01-2009 11:58 PM

Do you really think that's the only limiting factor? The turbo kit?

Tell you what, I'll be nice to you before the wolverines in here completely rip you apart:
Pick up a copy of "Maximum boost". Read it 5 times.
Then read every single faq and stickied thread on here regarding turbocharging.
Then come back with questions

SKMetalworks 12-01-2009 11:59 PM

What are you asking? What different manufactures make turbos for the NC? Or what is the failure point of the NC motor? Im not completely sure but i believe its around 300 +/- Although not many people have blown motors. Dont the 07 and the 09 have the same motor?

9671111 12-01-2009 11:59 PM

http://www.tardis.ed.ac.uk/~kate/ima...%20popcorn.jpg

Grunt Z 12-02-2009 12:02 AM

I'm asking what manufacturers out there that make kits for the 2009 model year. I'm not sure if the 2007 and 2009 are the same motor. Sorry for not being specific. I'm not car illiterate just not too familiar with miatas. I currently own a 370Z which I'm also shopping for a turbo kit :D

18psi 12-02-2009 12:03 AM

Get a BEGi turbo kit in that case.
The one at the november dyno day made 280whp at 10psi if I remember correctly. Can't go wrong with that.

SKMetalworks 12-02-2009 12:05 AM

BEGI Miata Turbo NC S3 Turbo System BEGi

I think there are superchargers as well but no one uses those. There lame.

Grunt Z 12-02-2009 12:07 AM

To be honest I don't even know the nomenclature of the motor. I'm trying to learn as much as possible. As for turbo charging I'm familiar with it and what the limitations are. We are looking for an off the shelf kit that can be installed with a stock motor. Not looking for crazy power because that would involve building the motor.

18psi 12-02-2009 12:08 AM

Post #12
/thread

Grunt Z 12-02-2009 12:08 AM

Nice! Thanks guys I appreciate your help!

secretsquirrel 12-02-2009 12:08 AM


Originally Posted by sbkcocker499 (Post 489471)
What are you asking? What different manufactures make turbos for the NC? Or what is the failure point of the NC motor? Im not completely sure but i believe its around 300 +/- Although not many people have blown motors. Dont the 07 and the 09 have the same motor?

Does that really matter? Neither one of us have an NC but both know extensive details on the subject by just reading past posts. Perhaps a send-off to m.net would be more appropriate?

SKMetalworks 12-02-2009 12:11 AM


Originally Posted by 18psi (Post 489485)
Post #12
/thread


I could search and keep this thread going but im going to reiterate what 18psi said.

Full_Tilt_Boogie 12-02-2009 12:13 AM

You guys are so mean, haha

basically, There is the BEGi turbo kit, and then there is the cosworth supercharger

Call BEGi and find out of there kit will work on your car.
If it wont, wait until they have a kit that will. Just please, pleeease dont buy a supercharger. Their lame and do not belong on sports cars, also they are directly linked with erectile disfunction.

Grunt Z 12-02-2009 12:15 AM


Originally Posted by 18psi (Post 489476)
Get a BEGi turbo kit in that case.
The one at the november dyno day made 280whp at 10psi if I remember correctly. Can't go wrong with that.

Wow 280whp is great! That's exactly what we are looking for. I'm purchasing a borla exhaust as we speak lol!

magnamx-5 12-02-2009 12:15 AM


Originally Posted by Grunt Z (Post 489475)
I'm asking what manufacturers out there that make kits for the 2009 model year. I'm not sure if the 2007 and 2009 are the same motor. Sorry for not being specific. I'm not car illiterate just not too familiar with miatas. I currently own a 370Z which I'm also shopping for a turbo kit :D

holly shit lol dude no one realy makes stuff for miatas that new. Most of us are to cheap to fork out that kinda cash on top of a new car. But in all honesty you best bet is to learn what the hell you are doing with forced induction and then make something yourself or get someone to make you a one off system. Becouse at the end of the day you are the one who has to live with the car and all of its lil nit picky issues from time to time. And to prevent you from blowing it up, you really should know what the hell you are doing. We can show you the how why etc, if fact we already have with our many faq's but the application of the data, is still up to you. gl to you man. And dont hesitate to talk to begi etc they are the only people i have heard of thus far modifing NC's.

Grunt Z 12-02-2009 12:16 AM


Originally Posted by Full_Tilt_Boogie (Post 489492)
You guys are so mean, haha

basically, There is the BEGi turbo kit, and then there is the cosworth supercharger

Call BEGi and find out of there kit will work on your car.
If it wont, wait until they have a kit that will. Just please, pleeease dont buy a supercharger. Their lame and do not belong on sports cars, also they are directly linked with erectile disfunction.

LMAO! Thank you, I will give them a call tomorrow.

secretsquirrel 12-02-2009 12:17 AM


Originally Posted by secretsquirrel (Post 489487)
Does that really matter? Neither one of us have an NC but both know extensive details on the subject by just reading past posts. Perhaps a send-off to m.net would be more appropriate?

My comments and quote back to sbkcocker499 were meant to be rhetorical for the benefit of the OP...sorry sbkcocker499.

zoomin 12-02-2009 12:17 AM

Better turbo the 370z before the Miata or the Miata will eat the Z for breakfast!

Gotpsi? 12-02-2009 12:18 AM

your just lucky Hustler didnt see this

Grunt Z 12-02-2009 12:20 AM


Originally Posted by magnamx-5 (Post 489497)
holly shit lol dude no one realy makes stuff for miatas that new. Most of us are to cheap to fork out that kinda cash on top of a new car. But in all honesty you best bet is to learn what the hell you are doing with forced induction and then make something yourself or get someone to make you a one off system. Becouse at the end of the day you are the one who has to live with the car and all of its lil nit picky issues from time to time. And to prevent you from blowing it up, you really should know what the hell you are doing. We can show you the how why etc, if fact we already have with our many faq's but the application of the data, is still up to you. gl to you man. And dont hesitate to talk to begi etc they are the only people i have heard of thus far modifing NC's.

Thank you :bigtu:

Grunt Z 12-02-2009 12:21 AM


Originally Posted by zoomin (Post 489501)
Better turbo the 370z before the Miata or the Miata will eat the Z for breakfast!

Thats what she's shooting for! :laugh:

zoomin 12-02-2009 12:25 AM

Pretty much any Miata running 8psi or more will give a stock Z a run for its money.

triple88a 12-02-2009 01:47 AM

honestly, you gotta learn to walk before you can run.

viperormiata 12-02-2009 02:00 AM

She?

Pics of said girlfriend now! Or shit is going to get ugly, like real ugly.These good forum members don't spoon feed you for free.

buffon01 12-02-2009 02:18 AM

Fuck the kit drop a 2jz in thata bitch :giggle:

emilio700 12-02-2009 02:42 AM


Originally Posted by Grunt Z (Post 489496)
Wow 280whp is great! That's exactly what we are looking for. I'm purchasing a borla exhaust as we speak lol!

You do understand that simply adding more power from boost may cause problems with other parts of the engine a drivetrain right?

280whp almost exactly twice the stock whp. Stuff is going to break if you drive it with any vigor. A lot of stuff. I'd suggest calling Mazda Parts from Good-Win Racing - Mazda Performance Specialists and Flyin Miata, in that order.

Add your location to your profile so we can see where you are. Not too many MX5 owners on this particular forum but maybe someone here can find someone near you to help out. We can install an OTS forced induction kit or build a custom system on the MX5 if you are near us.

So to answer your question specifically, you can get whatever power you like from either a turbo, positive displacement or centrifugal supercharger. The first limit will be the strength of the engine itself, not the blower. After that, the limit is the depth of your pockets and patience.

turotufas 12-02-2009 02:58 AM

I hope that borla works with turbocharging! Better not be like a n/a specific.
How do you like that 370?

rrjwilson 12-02-2009 07:26 AM

Just to add that Cosworth Supercharger kit is a no go according monthly Miata magazine as it has been causing problems which Cosworth themselves can't find and fix.

This also leads to the worry that whatever the problem is for being SC could be related to FI and not the actual SC basis of FI. Get in contact with BEGI and get talking alot.

gospeed81 12-02-2009 07:47 AM


Originally Posted by turotufas (Post 489564)
I hope that borla works with turbocharging! Better not be like a n/a specific.
How do you like that 370?

+1..you'll want to know what diameter it is (2.5good, 3" better), if it had crushed or mandrel bends (mandrel much better), and if the muffler is a straight-thru design.

DO NOT order an exhaust system for a naturally aspirated car if you plan to go turbo...you'll just be wasting money. You'll probably have to contact ARTech, EnthuzaCar or someone like that to fab something up as I doubt there are any suitable off-the-shelf options.


As far as turbo kits go...there is only one. I have met Corky Bell and would gladly put anything he designs on my car. NA turbo'd by BEGi...will turbo an NC with whatever the top of the line BEGi kit is by then when I can afford it.

Laur3ns 12-02-2009 09:21 AM

Max rwhp? Get the largest turbo that spools before redline. I'd like to see a GT35R on an NC. Or a Cossy S/C with a NO2 shot that runs an 18AFR...

Grunt Z 12-02-2009 02:01 PM


Originally Posted by viperormiata (Post 489549)
She?

Pics of said girlfriend now! Or shit is going to get ugly, like real ugly.These good forum members don't spoon feed you for free.

LOL! I have a pic with her in the Miata. Just gota find it...

Braineack 12-02-2009 02:05 PM


Originally Posted by sbkcocker499 (Post 489479)
BEGI Miata Turbo NC S3 Turbo System BEGi

I think there are superchargers as well but no one uses those. There lame.

/thread.

Braineack 12-02-2009 02:05 PM


Originally Posted by Grunt Z (Post 489764)
LOL! I have a pic with her in the Miata. Just gota find it...


\thread...

Grunt Z 12-02-2009 02:07 PM


Originally Posted by emilio700 (Post 489562)
You do understand that simply adding more power from boost may cause problems with other parts of the engine a drivetrain right?

280whp almost exactly twice the stock whp. Stuff is going to break if you drive it with any vigor. A lot of stuff. I'd suggest calling Mazda Parts from Good-Win Racing - Mazda Performance Specialists and Flyin Miata, in that order.

Add your location to your profile so we can see where you are. Not too many MX5 owners on this particular forum but maybe someone here can find someone near you to help out. We can install an OTS forced induction kit or build a custom system on the MX5 if you are near us.

So to answer your question specifically, you can get whatever power you like from either a turbo, positive displacement or centrifugal supercharger. The first limit will be the strength of the engine itself, not the blower. After that, the limit is the depth of your pockets and patience.

I understand completely about the limitations of the drive train and motor. It's not going to be beaten on regularly. I'm from North NJ so if there's anyone local that could help it would be much appreciated. If you have any turbo kits available for 2009 MY let me know, thanks!

Grunt Z 12-02-2009 02:16 PM


Originally Posted by turotufas (Post 489564)
I hope that borla works with turbocharging! Better not be like a n/a specific.
How do you like that 370?

Well turns out the Borla exhaust is on back order 4-6 weeks :(
As for the 370Z I'm loving it! It's definitely different from my S2000 but in a good way. It's just a tad heavy though.

Braineack 12-02-2009 02:19 PM

cancel the order, get a real man's exhaust once the turbo is fitted.

hustler 12-02-2009 02:21 PM

so who bought the car, you or your GF? It can't be a care you both share payments and seat time one. Which angle should I take here?

Grunt Z 12-02-2009 02:26 PM

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http://www.s2ki.com/forums/index.php...age&img=663648

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Grunt Z 12-02-2009 02:28 PM


Originally Posted by Braineack (Post 489782)
cancel the order, get a real man's exhaust once the turbo is fitted.

What do you suggest?

Grunt Z 12-02-2009 02:29 PM


Originally Posted by hustler (Post 489784)
so who bought the car, you or your GF? It can't be a care you both share payments and seat time one. Which angle should I take here?

We both bought the car together but she's making the payments. I'm not sure if I understand your question?

Bond 12-02-2009 02:29 PM

3" turbo to tip.

Braineack 12-02-2009 02:30 PM


Originally Posted by Grunt Z (Post 489790)
What do you suggest?

going to most likely have to be one off. 3" or bust; straight through muffler/mufflers or bust.

hustler 12-02-2009 02:30 PM


Originally Posted by Grunt Z (Post 489791)
We both bought the car together but she's making the payments. I'm not sure if I understand your question?

Do you have a job? I'm trying to decide if you're cool or not.

gospeed81 12-02-2009 02:32 PM

Your girlfriend looks a lot like my wife (we have good taste)...but could pass as a double for her sister.

Let me know if you ever break up with her...I've got a REALLY bad itch to lay my wife's sister, but can't deal with the fallout. :bowrofl:

Nice cars.

Again...GO WITH THE BEGi KIT!

I saw it in person...it was some nice work...and the dyno graph isn't to be scoffed at.

Grunt Z 12-02-2009 02:32 PM


Originally Posted by hustler (Post 489795)
Do you have a job? I'm trying to decide if you're cool or not.

LOL! Yes we are both in the Army. I just got back from Iraq and she's about to come home in January.

Grunt Z 12-02-2009 02:33 PM


Originally Posted by Braineack (Post 489793)
going to most likely have to be one off. 3" or bust; straight through muffler/mufflers or bust.

Thanks!

gospeed81 12-02-2009 02:35 PM


Originally Posted by Grunt Z (Post 489797)
LOL! Yes we are both in the Army. I just got back from Iraq and she's about to come home in January.

Wow...kickass. Sorry to hear ya'll are apart right now...but thanks to both of you for your service.

Grunt Z 12-02-2009 02:38 PM


Originally Posted by gospeed81 (Post 489796)
Your girlfriend looks a lot like my wife (we have good taste)...but could pass as a double for her sister.

Let me know if you ever break up with her...I've got a REALLY bad itch to lay my wife's sister, but can't deal with the fallout. :bowrofl:

Nice cars.

Again...GO WITH THE BEGi KIT!

I saw it in person...it was some nice work...and the dyno graph isn't to be scoffed at.

LOL! Thanks!

Grunt Z 12-02-2009 02:40 PM


Originally Posted by gospeed81 (Post 489800)
Wow...kickass. Sorry to hear ya'll are apart right now...but thanks to both of you for your service.

Thank you guys for supporting us! :bigtu:

hustler 12-02-2009 02:40 PM


Originally Posted by Grunt Z (Post 489797)
LOL! Yes we are both in the Army. I just got back from Iraq and she's about to come home in January.

I'm going to await further information before I determine your coolness level. Right now you're right in the middle, it could go either way.

I'm happy to hear that you're military though because your posts were starting to look somewhat Baby-Gotti.

Grunt Z 12-02-2009 02:42 PM


Originally Posted by hustler (Post 489807)
I'm going to await further information before I determine your coolness level. Right now you're right in the middle, it could go either way.

I'm happy to hear that you're military though because your posts were starting to look somewhat Baby-Gotti.

Baby-Gotti???

turotufas 12-02-2009 02:44 PM

Run a 3" open DP like me!

webby459 12-02-2009 03:08 PM


Originally Posted by Grunt Z (Post 489797)
LOL! Yes we are both in the Army. I just got back from Iraq and she's about to come home in January.

Thanks to both of you for your service. You are preserving our freedom so that we can continue to be douche bags.

I think we will need topless photos of the girl before proceeding.

Thanks in advance.

zoomin 12-02-2009 03:44 PM

I went through so many cars when I was in the Army, had a BMW, Stealth, Talon, and a Jeep all in less than 4 years. This was back in the 90's before the Army got weak.

Grunt Z 12-02-2009 03:53 PM


Originally Posted by webby459 (Post 489828)
Thanks to both of you for your service. You are preserving our freedom so that we can continue to be douche bags.

I think we will need topless photos of the girl before proceeding.

Thanks in advance.

I do have those but i think she would kill me if I posted those up LOL!


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