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FRT_Fun 10-20-2013 02:11 AM

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Originally Posted by blackone (Post 1064800)
(I Leave that for the true God)
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https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1382249469

blackone 10-20-2013 12:56 PM


Originally Posted by Full_Tilt_Boogie (Post 1064809)
Hey Look, he admits a slow spooling pile of shit. My hat is off to you sir.
As for your god. What kind of god would allow you to build such a lame car? You should feel bad.

P.S. Suck Brains dick more. Im sure he is really impressed with your fellatio technique.

I seriously Burst out laughing when I read this. Thank you..
You guys are great.

FRT_Fun 10-20-2013 01:32 PM

No you hang up.

GeneSplicer 10-23-2013 10:10 PM

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Why you got cool RHD NC? Oh I see - image reversed using MS paint techniques - wurd

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1382581103

Savington 10-23-2013 10:18 PM

Y'all postin' in a Florida thread.

triple88a 10-23-2013 10:25 PM


Originally Posted by GeneSplicer (Post 1066192)
Why you got cool RHD NC? Oh I see - image reversed using MS paint techniques - wurd

So much torques it be twisting gravity and shit.

shuiend 10-24-2013 09:59 AM


Originally Posted by GeneSplicer (Post 1066192)
Why you got cool RHD NC? Oh I see - image reversed using MS paint techniques - wurd

They are producing a kit that will work with both LHD and RHD NC's, that is why they have the RHD one.

Savington 10-24-2013 12:22 PM


Originally Posted by shuiend (Post 1066275)
They are producing a kit that will work with both LHD and RHD NC's, that is why they have the RHD one.

If you're not being facetious, look at the lettering on the rail car behind it.

Braineack 10-24-2013 12:31 PM


Originally Posted by nitrodann (Post 1064810)
If you disagree with brain he has a propensity to just ban you, so it's probably a worthwhile technique.

no, I banned him for his insult.

shuiend 10-24-2013 01:04 PM


Originally Posted by Savington (Post 1066327)
If you're not being facetious, look at the lettering on the rail car behind it.

I am serious about them building their kit for both RHD and LHD NC's. They brought up that they had imported one from Aussieland I believe in the thread about their manifold designs. I honestly have no clue what picture people are referring to and what lettering I should look at.

mgeoffriau 10-24-2013 01:23 PM

Look at the picture of the "RHD" NC in this thread. Look at the lettering on the rail car behind the "RHD" NC.

thenuge26 10-24-2013 01:41 PM

I see the pic, I'm missing the part where he claimed it was a RHD car...

mgeoffriau 10-24-2013 01:50 PM

You can see the instrument hood on the dash.

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1382244234


EDIT: blackone didn't claim that car was RHD, Genesplicer just made a joke about it the pic being reversed. That's all.

MXGeorge 10-24-2013 02:15 PM


Originally Posted by Braineack (Post 1066340)
no, I banned him for his insult.

What insult?

Braineack 10-24-2013 02:19 PM

post 56.

MXGeorge 10-24-2013 04:54 PM

I don't see it. :dunno: Seems to me that he was going out of his way NOT to insult you and a couple other people. But you're the boss and I'm not gonna argue.

GeneSplicer 10-24-2013 08:08 PM


Originally Posted by thenuge26 (Post 1066369)
I see the pic, I'm missing the part where he claimed it was a RHD car...

I was more or less accusing of more photochopping... the "RHD" came from his pic being flipped horizontally, given away by "elpoep rac knat eht" on the rail car behind.


edit - I missed where Mark explained it... sorry

Seefo 10-24-2013 09:16 PM

funny thread is funny.

turbofan 10-24-2013 09:38 PM

lulz at TDR being bannded. You guyz are the funnies. Seriously, no sarcasm: best online community ever.

*edit to add after reading the M.net thread*

I mean, Leonid asked honest questions, and so did mr. concealer. It's just marketing and people lapping it up. Wow.

Efini~FC3S 10-25-2013 11:52 AM

I commend Brain for his excellent use of his ban stick.

Opti 10-31-2013 11:40 PM

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So im tossing around the idea of an NC, so started looking at BOOST options besides this shenanigans here. Started looking and found Begi's kit for like 3600...hmmm, not bad. Then I saw tuning options, which added like 1K, so I wanted to see if those are the only options, seems high but im used to these GM PCMs that can just be reflashed cheaply...whatever, cant find much, so I just got the m.net and search Begi.


Find a thread about Moto-east modifying the Begi kit. This interests me. Begin to read and I realize how much of a clown this blackbone guy is.

Mike @ moto-east posts his a pic 3 yr old begi manifold (im assuming to show that its still in good shape), and talks about some of the upgrades he wants to make, mainly about PS routing and charge pipe routing.
https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1383277227
Then clearly states he has another new one for a customer.
https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1383277227

The this guy steps in

Originally Posted by Blackone
Beautifull manifold Korky, nice job!

Seems harmless right, just a little respect for the competition.
Then a whole 11 mins later...

Originally Posted by Blackone
Mike it looks lile yours craked in the exact same place than mine did at the base of #3 runner?

Now im new at the whole trubo thing but I dont see a crack, and then of course the TDR (not the real TDR) lover can also see this phantom crack and posts up about how it was a "good catch" by blackone.

Then Mike says

Not sure what crack you're seeing? There's no cracks...maybe you guys are referring to the relief cuts? Those are Corky's staple and work to allow the flange to expand without warping. Mine was never relief cut and there's no cracking, warping, nor leakage.
Then blackone

Originally Posted by Blackone
mmm, no not talking about the flange, why are you changing a perfectly working manifold?
and is it mild steal?

Then someone who can read says that its for a customer, and Blackones response is

Thanks missed that, I really like those shiny coatings, very nice
Looked like TDR trying to bring up bad shit, I call Shenanigans, would never do business with this fool.

Thread for you guys
http://forum.miata.net/vb/showthread...highlight=begi

Full_Tilt_Boogie 11-01-2013 01:08 AM

Its obvious that Blackbone is a serious piece of shit. The evidence just piles up.
Its fucked up that someone would try to run a business with this kind of shady bullshit going on.

sharkythesharkdogg 11-01-2013 12:10 PM

It doesn't look good for someone who already has a questionable rep to troll other vendors. It makes it hard to tell if the "Korky" was passive-aggressive, or just not paying attention.

When you have that kinda rep, everything little thing you do gets looked at with a different light.

thenuge26 11-01-2013 12:16 PM

A+++ trolling from Jay.

"Oh wow I see a crack in a place that you can't actually see in the picture."

I mean you can see where the weld is on the #3 runner, but not much else. There could be a 1/4" gap and I'm pretty sure it couldn't be seen from that pic. Truly a master at work. Too bad he's trying to run a business, he would fit right in here otherwise.

Braineack 11-01-2013 12:24 PM


Originally Posted by sharkythesharkdogg (Post 1069234)
It doesn't look good for someone who already has a questionable rep to troll other vendors. It makes it hard to tell if the "Korky" was passive-aggressive, or just not paying attention.

When you have that kinda rep, everything little thing you do gets looked at with a different light.

Korky didnt even post in that thread...

sharkythesharkdogg 11-01-2013 12:50 PM

Maybe I'm the idiot. I thought he spells his name Corky. I was referring to how the other guy spelled Corky's name.

Braineack 11-01-2013 01:01 PM

Correct, but you used quotes so I thought you were actually referring to Corky, not the dude who kept calling him Korky.

sharkythesharkdogg 11-01-2013 01:30 PM

Nah, I was using them to just highlight the spelling situation. Probably used quote marks incorrectly. Anyway, :party:

MXGeorge 11-07-2013 08:43 AM

I had to have my manifold rebuilt by Corky due to cracks as well. As far as the picture where Jay sees the "phantom crack" goes, take a look at where the weld is on runner number 3. You will see a dark line running along the edge of the weld.

I'm assuming that this was what he was referring to. It looks like the weld is separating from the main and allowing exhaust gas to seep through as evidenced by the carbon on the edge of the weld.

hustler 11-07-2013 09:07 AM

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mgeoffriau 11-11-2013 06:33 PM

Good thread.

[Supercharging] The FASTREDRAT is dead. - MX-5 Miata Forum

tl;dr -- NC engine asplodes and send the #1 piston through the oil pan, car gets crispy, owner still quite confident that his tune from Jay @ TDR has nothing to do with it.

Opti 11-11-2013 07:15 PM

I love reading m.net this quite pretty much sums it up

Based on recent dyno of 212 RWHP, the engine was producing about 280 HP, 253 at the crank (30 HP to drive the blower @ 6000 RPM).

nitrodann 11-11-2013 07:44 PM

Lol, typical, taking a real useful figure of RWHP, and turning it into some made up arbitrary figure which sounds impressive.

Dann

sixshooter 11-11-2013 07:46 PM


Originally Posted by Opti (Post 1072297)
I love reading m.net this quite pretty much sums it up

WTF are they smoking? I can't even draw myself over there to follow your link. I resist going over there with great success.

Full_Tilt_Boogie 11-11-2013 07:49 PM


Originally Posted by nitrodann (Post 1072305)
Lol, typical, taking a real useful figure of RWHP, and turning it into some made up arbitrary figure which sounds impressive.

Dann

It was dynojet, so it was already an arbitrary figure that sounds impressive. They just took that shit it to another level.

mgeoffriau 11-11-2013 08:01 PM

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Pics of carnage.

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1384218090

triple88a 11-11-2013 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Opti (Post 1072297)

Originally Posted by Mnet
bunchcha bs....

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https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1384226449

turbofan 11-12-2013 01:23 PM

lol @ horsepower. "212 rwhp = 280hp becuz probably 250 at the crank but 30 to spin the blower"

https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/i...cHISRunJI7dpVz

Braineack 11-12-2013 01:58 PM


Originally Posted by mgeoffriau (Post 1072269)
Good thread.

[Supercharging] The FASTREDRAT is dead. - MX-5 Miata Forum

tl;dr -- NC engine asplodes and send the #1 piston through the oil pan, car gets crispy, owner still quite confident that his tune from Jay @ TDR has nothing to do with it.

they said that about the Sniper tune when it first came out too, then Cosworth acutally started shipping pistons with the SC kit. Meanwhile Corky was boosted well over 300rwhp without issues on a good tune.

MXGeorge 11-12-2013 05:46 PM


Originally Posted by Braineack (Post 1072593)
they said that about the Sniper tune when it first came out too, then Cosworth acutally started shipping pistons with the SC kit. Meanwhile Corky was boosted well over 300rwhp without issues on a good tune.

Yep. My car was the first turbo outside of the BEGi shop. I was making WELL over 300 at 16psi with an Xede and water/meth. Easy as pie. I still don't understand the appeal of the supercharger.

MXGeorge 11-12-2013 05:50 PM


Originally Posted by mgeoffriau (Post 1072314)

Does anyone have any ideas what might have happened here? My guess has been pre-ignition. Can't think of what else might have caused such a violent failure.

wallytherally 07-08-2014 10:41 PM

Hi Yall
My Name is Wally,
I Just Bought me a brand spanking new 2014 Mx5(first new car in 8 years:) ) and Im thinking of boosting it.
Thought Id Post here since this is the "Turbo" forum afterall, any expert advise would be much appreciated fellas.
So my budget is pretty much 8k,
Im thinking that's a good start for a turbo kit and a mild suspension upgrade.(maybe konis and FM spring) read good stuff about this combo

Ive also read good reviews of The Special Force Kit that TDR has on their website. Did some reading on Miata.net as well, all seems positive.

So any advice before I pull the trigger?
Any short comings that are not apparent to amateurs on this kit?

Btw Id do lots of track driving, So reliability is a must.

And please no supercharger advise, I want a turbo. Period

Thanks in advance Folks
Wally

blaen99 07-08-2014 10:47 PM

Why would anyone buy a turbo kit from Tuning Done Rong?

sixshooter 07-08-2014 10:48 PM


Originally Posted by wallytherally (Post 1146629)
Hi Yall
My Name is Wally,
I Just Bought me a brand spanking new 2014 Mx5(first new car in 8 years:) ) and Im thinking of boosting it.
Thought Id Post here since this is the "Turbo" forum afterall, any expert advise would be much appreciated fellas.
So my budget is pretty much 8k,
Im thinking that's a good start for a turbo kit and a mild suspension upgrade.(maybe konis and FM spring) read good stuff about this combo

Ive also read good reviews of The Special Force Kit that TDR has on their website. Did some reading on Miata.net as well, all seems positive.

So any advice before I pull the trigger?
Any short comings that are not apparent to amateurs on this kit?

Btw Id do lots of track driving, So reliability is a must.

And please no supercharger advise, I want a turbo. Period

Thanks in advance Folks
Wally

OK. Who is this really? :lol:

miata2fast 07-08-2014 10:51 PM

Most appropriate first post ever.

wallytherally 07-08-2014 11:02 PM

What do you mean?
Its a legitimate question... If I said something wrong, Id like to be corrected. That's how we learn.
Im looking for factual advice that will lead to either yay or nay.
And a more welcoming tone from an "Enthusiasts" forum.

If this is the wrong forum for advice, Ill go else where

Wally

Ryan_G 07-08-2014 11:07 PM

You didn't make an intro post in the newb section and you made a completely irrelevant request for advice in a thread about specific events. You should probably start with an intro post and then either ask your question within that thread or create a build thread of your own and solicit advice there. You would probably get much better advice or direction.

Schuyler 07-08-2014 11:10 PM


Originally Posted by wallytherally (Post 1146637)
What do you mean?
Its a legitimate question... If I said something wrong, Id like to be corrected. That's how we learn.
Im looking for factual advice that will lead to either yay or nay.
And a more welcoming tone from an "Enthusiasts" forum.

If this is the wrong forum for advice, Ill go else where

Wally

Posting this in the meet and greet section of the forum would probably be a better place to get more potentially helpful advice, as this thread is a year old and the original poster has been banned.

wallytherally 07-08-2014 11:14 PM

My Apologies Ryan G.
I was eager for quick advice and skipped on the ceremonial intro steps.
As to start my Own thread, Im still trying to figure this thing out. Never posted on a forum before, Ive always just been a reader.

as for the friendly rating of this forum, Cant say its quiet High.
Wouldn't want to make a mistake in a post, could attract the vultures.

Waly

wallytherally 07-08-2014 11:17 PM


Originally Posted by Schuyler (Post 1146639)
Posting this in the meet and greet section of the forum would probably be a better place to get more potentially helpful advice, as this thread is a year old and the original poster has been banned.

Thanks for the Advice Sir.
Could you please indicate where the meet and greet section is?

Wally

turbofan 07-09-2014 02:04 AM

Wally,

Please don't bother wasting keystrokes telling us how unfriendly we are. Just start reading. Believe me: you're not the first to tell us we are harsh, and you won't be the first to change the way things are. Stay awhile and you might find you like it.

sixshooter 07-09-2014 07:10 AM


Originally Posted by wallytherally (Post 1146640)
quiet High

It is about etiquette. Every social interaction has certain cultural norms.
You are possibly unfamiliar with what is the expected norm in this situation and are being politely directed in the proper avenue for proceeding.

triple88a 07-09-2014 09:33 AM


Originally Posted by wallytherally (Post 1146642)
Thanks for the Advice Sir.
Could you please indicate where the meet and greet section is?

Wally

Meet and Greet - Miata Turbo Forum - Turbo Kitten is watching you test compression.

As far as your question. Its been asked a million times which is why these folks don't like repeating information.

As a small guide to a newbie, go in each section and read the stickies.

I'll get you started.
Prefabbed Turbo Kits - Miata Turbo Forum - Turbo Kitten is watching you test compression.
DIY Turbo Discussion - Miata Turbo Forum - Turbo Kitten is watching you test compression.

concealer404 07-09-2014 09:42 AM

Someone was telling me about yet another Tuning Done Rong turbo'd/tuned NC blowing up a couple weeks ago. Might have been Erat.

soviet 07-09-2014 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by concealer404 (Post 1146718)
Someone was telling me about yet another Tuning Done Rong turbo'd/tuned NC blowing up a couple weeks ago. Might have been Erat.

Its the same guy who had the red NC go up in flames

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1404916205

this is what he said about it:


Did initial damage to # 4 piston inadvertently running at 19-20 PSI. #4 cylinder compression low at 95 PSI vice 195. Ordered new engine and thought I could baby it until the swap. pushed it a little too hard and the engine grenaded on Fentress Airfield road. Lucky this time the car did not catch fire like the previous one. I suspect that the turbine blades are trashed. Reverted back to stock configuration until turbo is rebuilt or replaced.

The question is when am I going to stop exceeding the power rating of the stock engine internals??? Nothing wrong with the tune. Stock NC internals should not be subject to over 16 PSI. Crack in rubber nipple from manifold to boost gage caused false low reading. Thought I was running safe at 14 PSI, After repair of gage line Boost was approaching 20. Also there are no locals that can tune the NC PCM. Standalone is not an option. The next thing I will throw money at is a built engine, but that will have to wait awhile for $$. I'm broke
And his reason for not running a standalone:

And of course know that the power windows require PCM interface with the PRHT ECM to operate. Standalone means loss of retractable hardtop and electric windows. Just one of dozens of PCM interfaces of a modern car that you loose with standalone.


:dealwithit:

concealer404 07-09-2014 10:32 AM

Hahhahahaa sounds like a flaming bag of fail.

triple88a 07-09-2014 10:41 AM

Shame he didnt go in flames with it.

soviet 07-09-2014 10:41 AM


Originally Posted by concealer404 (Post 1146726)
Hahhahahaa sounds like a flaming bag of fail.

This whole area is a breeding ground for dumbasses. It makes people living in DC area (3 hours away) look like geniuses.

shuiend 07-09-2014 11:10 AM

Where are the threads with the info about the new motors going boom?

soviet 07-09-2014 11:33 AM

He posted it in the local miata facebook group, got told to stop wasting money on Tuning Done Right, and promtly left the group.

https://www.facebook.com/groups/OCD.miata

may need to be invited


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