web camshafts are these good..
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^^ +1, cheater..
they're an NA grind, doubt they'd be any good for turbo. |
If everyone adds cams then it's not cheating.
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Originally Posted by MikeD
(Post 77878)
I hope someone reports that guy to SCCA and he gets an impound inspection after every race..
Cheat to win,that's what I always say. |
will these be good with my greddy setup
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Originally Posted by deseroner
(Post 77956)
will these be good with my greddy setup
Originally Posted by kotomile
(Post 77914)
they're an NA grind, doubt they'd be any good for turbo.
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^ if everyone and their mother cheats in SM then everyone is on equal ground as far as performance goes,but the ones that don't cheat will be left behind?
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Originally Posted by MikeD
(Post 78008)
They pay alott of money to have a "stock" 1.6L that pulls harder than my stock 1.8L.. You can bet its not stock, and you can bet that its very hard to bust. |
if you have to cheat to win you're really not playing the same game. Comments like that will lose you a lot of friends and probably earn you a lot of protests in Solo...
In spec maybe a dry smile. I remember our first event a young man introduced himself with his smooth southern accent and proceeded to tell us all the illegal engine internals he had... then later we came to find he was leading the national points race :td: That's ok, you cheat and you drive like a hack and people will know it and you will get caught. It will cost you $$ to pay for tear down, it will cost you $$ in fines, it will cost you repuation and if you run a business that translates to more $$. In the end it's not worth it for a game, there's no money on the line. These cheater cams are one item in a series of common "cheats" many SM drivers are guilty of, but the really great drivers aren't cheating at all. They're working their asses off with well prepared machines and tons and tons of seat time. It could be argued though...the whole point keeping costs low...that for $250 in headwork I can have a motor that performs onpar with so-called "stock" sunbelt motors that are so ridiculously prepared but tear-down proof they cost about half what my entire car cost to put together. And at one point 80% of the top 10 was running one. Mike's been exposed at the national level, where there is a national amount of pride on the line. I suspect the talent dictates a bit less money being spent in the regional field I'll be in this year. |
Blake,if I was gonna cheat.....do you really think I would tell anyone that I'm doing it and risk getting caught.
In motorsports everyone finds a way to cheat,either it be the weekend racer or the pros.Heck even those idiots on the show "PINKS" cheat. |
Originally Posted by MikeD
(Post 78049)
I dont cheat. :)
Guess that makes me a nobody :hs: |
like they're going to check your cam anyway
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Originally Posted by Philip
(Post 78064)
like they're going to check your cam anyway
If your not cheating,your not winning. |
In every sport there is cheating,either it be illegal performance enhancements in motor racing or faking injuries to favor your team in soccer,NHL,NBA or NFL,shit they even cheat in tennis and golf.Hell even profesional body builders cheat(steroids)to win.
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Originally Posted by spike
(Post 78074)
^ very true.
If your not cheating,your not winning. |
Originally Posted by Savington
(Post 78089)
I race shifter karts competitively at a club level. I've won heat races. My kart is 100% legal. If you have to cheat to win in motorsports, you need to learn how to drive.
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Originally Posted by spike
(Post 78091)
Since you are an excellent shifter kart driver,just think how many more races you could win if you cheated.
whatever helps you sleep at night. i would much rather lose honestly than win dishonestly. but maybe im crazy |
Excellent drivers who cheat:
Richard Petty, ran a motor 24 inches over the limit, ran illegal tires Darrell Waltrip, lightened his car past the limit, strapped weight to his inspection set of wheels, would pit early in the race to get "regular" wheels. Also would put 60-70 lbs of lead in his inspection helmet, which would always have to be replaced because of "radio issues" before the race Jimmy Johnson, connected his rear window to the track bar, so a track bar adjustment would change the angle of the window to deflect air over the rear spoiler Jeff Gordon, illegal intake mani Jeremy Mayfield, fuel additives Jeremy Mayfield, roof line too low Kurt Busch, failed template tests These are just a few instances of people who were caught, and I could remember. There were practically no penalties sactioned against any of the cheaters. Rumoured cheats that noone will specifically fess up to: Using NOS in qualifying, hiding NOS equipment in driver's suit Radio controlled actuators to lower spoiler angle during a race Using magnets to stretch the fuel cell to hold more gas Intentionally dropping debris on the track to avoid being lapped Hollow roll bars filled with shot, dumped out during the course of a raise Hollow roll bars filled with fuel |
Originally Posted by Philip
(Post 78064)
like they're going to check your cam anyway
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Originally Posted by Ben
(Post 78100)
Excellent drivers who cheat:
Richard Petty, ran a motor 24 inches over the limit, ran illegal tires Darrell Waltrip, lightened his car past the limit, strapped weight to his inspection set of wheels, would pit early in the race to get "regular" wheels. Also would put 60-70 lbs of lead in his inspection helmet, which would always have to be replaced because of "radio issues" before the race Jimmy Johnson, connected his rear window to the track bar, so a track bar adjustment would change the angle of the window to deflect air over the rear spoiler Jeff Gordon, illegal intake mani Jeremy Mayfield, fuel additives Jeremy Mayfield, roof line too low Kurt Busch, failed template tests These are just a few instances of people who were caught, and I could remember. There were practically no penalties sactioned against any of the cheaters. Rumoured cheats that noone will specifically fess up to: Using NOS in qualifying, hiding NOS equipment in driver's suit Radio controlled actuators to lower spoiler angle during a race Using magnets to stretch the fuel cell to hold more gas Intentionally dropping debris on the track to avoid being lapped Hollow roll bars filled with shot, dumped out during the course of a raise Hollow roll bars filled with fuel bunch of dirty moonshiners. guys just got caught at the runoffs with a roll cage made almost entirely with exhaust tubing instead of the spec'd steel |
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