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Old 01-02-2012, 11:55 AM   #1
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Question What Vortech ratio would you recommend???

Hi....long time lurker from across the pond.

Car has been recently dyno'd at 186 at the fly (152 rwhp). This was using a simple standard GReddy kit on oem 1.6 injectors, Vortech 12:1, timing at 10 and using 99ron fuel. No knock. Sub 6psi.

I'd like to crank it up to 8psi and achieve 210hp at the fly. I've installed 1.8 tan tops, air2air intercooler, Bipes.

From what I've read.....am I now needing to upgrade my pump and run a 8:1 disc on the FMU? Any recommendations?

I have a 255 pump (not installed) but is this overkill? ANYONE SITTING ON A 190 HP UNIT THEY DON'T NEED?

The Vortech discs are near impossible to find in the UK...SO, HAS ANYONE GOT ONE THEY'D BE WILLING TO POST FOR ME?

Happy New Year btw. . Kev
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I would recommend that one that says "Megasquirt" on it.
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Unless you are really dead set on bandaids why not go MS like mentioned above?
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Hi....long time lurker from across the pond.

Car has been recently dyno'd at 186 at the fly (152 rwhp). This was using a simple standard GReddy kit on oem 1.6 injectors, Vortech 12:1, timing at 10 and using 99ron fuel. No knock. Sub 6psi.

I'd like to crank it up to 8psi and achieve 210hp at the fly. I've installed 1.8 tan tops, air2air intercooler, Bipes.

From what I've read.....am I now needing to upgrade my pump and run a 8:1 disc on the FMU? Any recommendations?

I have a 255 pump (not installed) but is this overkill? ANYONE SITTING ON A 190 HP UNIT THEY DON'T NEED?

The Vortech discs are near impossible to find in the UK...SO, HAS ANYONE GOT ONE THEY'D BE WILLING TO POST FOR ME?

Happy New Year btw. . Kev
Thats a nice intercooler, but I prefer the oil2air2oil ones. 2x efficiency per unit of mass.
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Aaaahhhahaaaahaaa..........fkn hilarious. !

Yeh. I'm dead set on bandaids. MS is 400 ($600+) over here before dyno time, wide band ect. I want to hit the safe ceiling with the bandaids. Fit, forget, track.

Any help?
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I want to hit the safe ceiling with the bandaids. Fit, forget, track.
You are already past it.

I don't know the answer to your question, but there are some people still with bandaids on here that must surely know.
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And stop talking about flywheel horsepower. And I mean EFFING STOP.
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Old 01-02-2012, 02:37 PM   #9
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You are already past it.

I don't know the answer to your question, but there are some people still with bandaids on here that must surely know.
Thanks for your input but that's clearly not the case.

Gearhead, thanks for the link. You guys have definitely got some keen prices in your favour.
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And stop talking about flywheel horsepower. And I mean EFFING STOP.
Haha......easy tiger, it's just the way we do things over here.
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Haha......easy tiger, it's just the way we do things over here.
If you spend 5 minutes on any performance oriented forum you'll see that IS the way we do things "here." Notice I'm not knocking you for not conforming to American octane numbers, but flywheel power is just garbage.

Have you strapped your engine to an engine dyno and gotten Flywheel power? No? K, that number is 100% useless magic then. And you'll probably go your entire life and never use an engine dyno, so why make up BS numbers involving one?

Bottom line: you don't see any credible members making actual power talking about flywheel numbers, if you want to be taken seriously (not just on this site, just in general) you should stop using them too. Just FYI, using bandaids is already a dent in your credibility.
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Wow, so aggressive. Quite the keyboard warrior aren't we.

I did give you my measured rwhp in the first post numb nuts.

The extrapolated fly figure is always given over here. Cars, bikes are sold on that basis in the UK. Forfucksake....calm yourself down.

I was asking for advice. You've given me sweet FA other than throw your verbal weight around. Is it a peer pressure thing? Look at me rip the newb? ****. Kudos to you I'm sure.

As for credibility....ram it. I'm as credible as the next man. I'm in it for the car and the grin factor. Not for your patronising acceptance.

Is this guy really what Miataturbo is about?
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We are a collective bunch of ********. But seriously, you will catch some crap for even mentioning bandaids. Either way it's the internet, people say s hit , if you don't like what they have to say just move on. Most people here have upgraded to a MS by now, so it might be a bit before you get your answer.
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Wow, so aggressive. Quite the keyboard warrior aren't we.

I did give you my measured rwhp in the first post numb nuts.

The extrapolated fly figure is always given over here. Cars, bikes are sold on that basis in the UK. Forfucksake....calm yourself down.

I was asking for advice. You've given me sweet FA other than throw your verbal weight around. Is it a peer pressure thing? Look at me rip the newb? ****. Kudos to you I'm sure.

As for credibility....ram it. I'm as credible as the next man. I'm in it for the car and the grin factor. Not for your patronising acceptance.

Is this guy really what Miataturbo is about?
hehe, I can see this guy is going to last long here.
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Thanks.

Apologies to all for rising to the bait flung earlier.

I know bandaids are old school and inefficient compared to MS but I didn't buy the car intending to follow this path. But here I am. Standalone is not financially viable at this time unfortunately. Knowing what I know now and how much I've spent on various tweaks, MS would have been the sensible choice. The benefit of hindsight and all that.

I'm running a safe 152 rwhp. A few tweaks and I reckon 165 rwhp will be possible. At least going by old MT threads I've read.

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I've been reading up to see if I can locate any sort of insight to your answer. All I have seen is that 360cc is recommended for 165rwhp. So if you use the formulas found here: http://miataturbo.wikidot.com/fuel-injectors you should be able to figure out what you can run.
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Cheers.

Yeh....that was my understanding to until I read Braineacks comments on CR.net.
http://clubroadster.net/vb_forum/arc...hp/t-3099.html
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Noob comes to serious performance site with noobisms

Experienced member tries to bring him up to speed on how business is conducted with the real players.

Noob invents aggression due to latent paranoia about running an admittedly inferior system. Feels he must defend his alpha bandaid status

Hilarity ensues.
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I'm still waiting for a log of your current AFRs in boost so I can actually help recommend a better ratio...
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Old 01-02-2012, 07:22 PM   #20
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Various self indulgent bollocks.
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Braineack....the man himself. Thankyou.



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