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Old Sep 2, 2013 | 02:07 PM
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i dont know weather to get a na turbo or a supercharged miata for auto x...ahh decisions
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Old Sep 2, 2013 | 04:43 PM
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NA VVT swap and run CSP. Lots of talent to keep you on your game and you're not breaking **** all the time (it happens, just not as often).
Old Sep 3, 2013 | 03:33 PM
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Details on the pink FD please. o.o
That's Carter Thompson's rx7. The pink is a "dip". I don't know much about it, but it's FAST.
Old Sep 3, 2013 | 03:37 PM
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Originally Posted by tpwalsh
That's Carter Thompson's rx7. The pink is a "dip". I don't know much about it, but it's FAST.
Set up and tuned by Ludwig Motorsports. The car is obscene, the powerband is just straight up DUMB.



In related news, can someone please explain to me just what the **** is going on in SSM?

Why is Steve Hoelscher's AW11 running SSM? I thought that was a DP car? Why the **** is it so fast?

And where did Martin Valent find all that speed in the SW20? o_O


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Hold up i'm dumb. They're both running Valent's car.
Old Sep 3, 2013 | 04:16 PM
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Hamfist Racing: Super Street Modified '93 Mazda RX7

That it?

And wtf, an autocross GT35R?!?

EDIT: No, that's not it on a re-read. He's talking about Carter Thompson being competition. Still, autocross GT35R...
Old Sep 3, 2013 | 04:21 PM
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This.



But pink now.
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Old Sep 3, 2013 | 04:22 PM
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Yeah, I've found a page with those pictures, but no build information.
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Many top tier SSM builds don't really have public build pages.
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Working off a broken memory: 13B-REW (street ported IIRC) with a motorsports twin scroll GT3X variation that last time I talked to him with a full 4" exhaust. His new setup makes more power on low boost than he did on high boost last year. The Chadwick/Johns RX7 is sporting some new hardware this year and a lot more power from talking to Brian. Both these cars live less than 20mins from me (hence why I don't run SSM).
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Last i saw, Carter's FD was making around 500whp with a huge powerband.
Old Sep 3, 2013 | 05:58 PM
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That sounds about right. He was still dealing with a fueling issue the last time I talked to him. He had only dynoed on wastegate pressure and they had to do multiple pulls because he couldn't believe that it made more HP w/ less pressure. The Chadwick/Johns RX7 is now running a twin scroll EFR (size eludes me) and a electric water pump to save weight.
Old Sep 10, 2013 | 07:38 PM
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Hey guys,
Running in CSP here. I'm interested in doing a splitter and spoiler (cheap, lightweight). I'm just trying to find if someone ever did back to back runs with and without CSP aero, so I can have an idea of type of gain I might find on the track.

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Old Sep 10, 2013 | 10:39 PM
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Originally Posted by bigben
Hey guys,
Running in CSP here. I'm interested in doing a splitter and spoiler (cheap, lightweight). I'm just trying to find if someone ever did back to back runs with and without CSP aero, so I can have an idea of type of gain I might find on the track.

Thanks!

Ben
How twitchy is your car now? If its setup currently to be a real handful in slalom and high speed entry corners there's almost half a second to be gained in SP legal aero from the stability at high speed. No idea on what it does time wise to a car that's already balanced. But SP aero on a car that isnt twitchy at on turn in without the aero will likely not want to turn in even if the aero is front biased.

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Old Sep 11, 2013 | 07:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Leafy
How twitchy is your car now? If its setup currently to be a real handful in slalom and high speed entry corners there's almost half a second to be gained in SP legal aero from the stability at high speed. No idea on what it does to a car that's already balanced.
Makes you even faster! Proper front aero and a wing were magical this year. Although I make more power then the CSP guys. You just have to go thru and make sure everything is still balanced after fiddling with aero. I'm pretty sure my car could use a little more spring now that I've gotten aero.
Old Sep 11, 2013 | 07:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Midtenn
NA VVT swap and run CSP. Lots of talent to keep you on your game and you're not breaking **** all the time (it happens, just not as often).
Watch your rev limit. I've heard of several VVT powered CSP cars that lose the cam due to an 8k or high redline.
Old Sep 11, 2013 | 07:45 AM
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Watch your rev limit. I've heard of several VVT powered CSP cars that lose the cam due to an 8k or high redline.
Shenker has been having weird issues that the rest of everyone else hasnt had he was blowing of valves on his engines with a stock redline for a while. You will want to tack weld the cam position ring to the camshaft though so that it doesnt slip and rotate on the cam.
Old Sep 11, 2013 | 08:53 AM
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Yeah, Bill's been through a couple motors. I could have sworn I was talking to someone else last year that was having problems with VVT, but only when trying to spin it faster. Of course, at National's the brain often gets beer-addled sometime midweek/after runs for the day.
Old Sep 12, 2013 | 07:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Leafy
How twitchy is your car now? If its setup currently to be a real handful in slalom and high speed entry corners there's almost half a second to be gained in SP legal aero from the stability at high speed. No idea on what it does time wise to a car that's already balanced. But SP aero on a car that isnt twitchy at on turn in without the aero will likely not want to turn in even if the aero is front biased.
Hi Leafy, thanks for the reply. The car is really not too bad in the slaloms, but I do find it quite twitchy in high speed sweepers, especially in high speed ''Esses''. I have yet to race on the current setup with proper tires (I don't run slicks, in our local races, we have an RT index for all classes, so street tires are not penalized), but I do plan to run 225 rs3 or Rivals next summer. I definitly rely on momentum, since I run a 1995 1.8bp motors, with standard bolts on.
Basically, trying to be quick by putting the least amount of money possible, in mods that will improve my times.

Thanks,

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Old Sep 12, 2013 | 09:24 PM
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Originally Posted by bigben
Hi Leafy, thanks for the reply. The car is really not too bad in the slaloms, but I do find it quite twitchy in high speed sweepers, especially in high speed ''Esses''. I have yet to race on the current setup with proper tires (I don't run slicks, in our local races, we have an RT index for all classes, so street tires are not penalized), but I do plan to run 225 rs3 or Rivals next summer. I definitly rely on momentum, since I run a 1995 1.8bp motors, with standard bolts on.
Basically, trying to be quick by putting the least amount of money possible, in mods that will improve my times.

Thanks,

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You'll gain more time putting the car one slicks, even 225 slicks than adding aero to a car that's already struggling in the power department for the class.
Old Dec 9, 2013 | 09:43 AM
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Ok dudes, do I keep ax6 on the back of my str car or do I switch to hp+? Do the ax6s have more bite than the hp+?

I've noticed the Carbotechs have chewed thru my rotor faster than the Hawks ever did and their dust pitted my wheels a lot worse than hawk too :(.



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