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Old 07-06-2012, 01:25 PM   #1
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Default Corbeau Retractable Harnesses???

I googled and searched for these belts in a miata but simply could not find anyone running them. They seem like such a great idea for a daily driver that gets autocrossed or tracked on the weekends.

Corbeau: 2-Inch Retractable Harness Belts

Does anyone know if they will mount in a miata? I have a Bossfrog rollbar. I was thinking if I welded in a mount point they might fit but not sure how much room they need behind the seat.

If not these then what would be a simple(to install and not **** you off while daily driving) and budget friendly set of harnesses?
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Old 07-06-2012, 02:13 PM   #2
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Well the problem comes from a couple things. You need to have at the least a 5 point harness with a crotch belt. A 4 point on the track isn't as safe as you can slide under the belt, even if only slightly. To properly use a 5 point belt, you need to make sure you have a seat that is designed to use it.

So really you need to get either a GC lock for your stock belt and call it at that for the time being, or get a complete proper setup. This can be as little as 250 used for the seat and harness with no real upper limit. A good starter seat is the Sparco Sprint V, Ultrashield Seats, or the Momo entry seat. You can get a harness new for $75 on up with camlock setups starting at $150.

I really wouldn't spend money on the harness you posted up, but on a proper setup instead.
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Old 07-06-2012, 02:24 PM   #3
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I am sorry I forgot to mention the seats I have

I have Corbeau clubman seats. Theyre not too bad and I got a killer deal. They have the ability for 5 points. The stock belts just dont do anything but **** me off. I plan on more autocross and spirited driving than actually taking it to the track as of now. Thanks
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I would still invest in a proper 5 point over this. The gforce cam lock setup will run you $150 and is well worth it.
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These look like the knock off of the ones I have in my car. Schroth has made them for a long time. Schroth Racing Harnesses

You do need 11" or so behind the seat in order for them to work properly. I use my car for only autocross and some street driving so I (like you) did not feel the need for a 5 point harness and do not plan to get too serious with taking my car to the track. In order to get these to work properly, I have them mounted directly to the floo of my car with a plate welded underneath the car to reinforce it. The harness then runs up along the back of the seat, around a harness bar to ensure that there is no compression on my shoulders and then the front two mount to where the seatbelt mounts were. Is a 5 point harness better? Absolutely. Does this harness do everything I need it to? Absolutely. I love being able to turn around on the highway, reach the radio and move around. Then when I hit the switch it locks up and is tight like a regular harness.

So - If you are going to do it... to make it work in a mita requires Seats which you have, A proper harness bar, and reinforcement to bolt the "reel" to the floor behind the seat.

A 5 point harness would also require you to reinforce the floor wherever you mount it in my opinion.

So again, Are these the "best" setup. No. Do they work for what I do and what you may want to do? Probably.

Hope that helps.
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Thanks. Do you have any pictures of your setup?
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I have a 5-point in my car that gets stuffed behind the seat when I'm using the three point. Don't compromise. If you're going to do it, do it right or end up in a wheel chair.
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Pick up a Crow 5 point. They are good quality and inexpensive, and they are actually safer than stock... unlike that death trap 4 point BS you posted.

EDIT: I noticed they seem to be marketing that 4 point towards Jeep owners, which makes sense. A 4 point is probably better than 3 for low speed rollovers, like jeeps are likely to get into... they are just terrible for high speed front impacts, like we are likely to get into.
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op. not sure if the message is clear.

but 4 point (other than Schroth ASM) is worse than stock. stock is safer on frontal impact.

5/6 point > 3 point > 4 point


Schroth ASM works as a 3 point in a frontal impact. so it is okay.
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You will die in a frontal impact wearing that 4-point harness.
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