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Old 05-15-2015, 04:13 AM   #1
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Default Daily driving Maxxis RC1

I really want to run the Maxxis 245/40 on some 15x10 but I don't want to fool with track/daily setups for a car that doesn't get much annual mileage. I was wondering the best place to get tires like this grooved for rain.

Here are some points I want you to consider before you tell me I am crazy.

- I will do a few HPDE a year (ax, nola)
- This car doesn't see over 50MPH on daily drive duty (small town)
- This car might accumulate 3-4k miles over the course of a year
- I don't mind replacing tires

My main question is if I am driving along and it starts pouring can I limp home at 30-40mph? Will my car take flight and explode into a million pieces as soon as it starts raining because that is the way everyone makes it seem. Standing water is obviously an issue but I will do my best to avoid it.
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Old 05-15-2015, 08:39 AM   #3
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Phil's Tire Service hand grooves tires, give them a call.

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Are you planning on going to the NASA event at NOLA in the 23rd of this month? Not sure if I'll make that event, but I'll be there for the next one for sure.
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I'd drive them to dry track days and back home, but then again I'm only ~40min/30miles from my local track.

My opinion, if you can afford 15x10 wheels and 245 RC-1s, you should be able to afford a 2nd set of wheels for rain/dd, and a small trailer to bring the RC1s to the track with you. Without ruining them.

If this doesn't sit well with you, I don't think the RC-1 is the right tire choice for you. An RS3, or if you're slightly lower powered Star Spec would be more along the lines of a rainable/DD/race tire. There's also R888s, RA-1, Rivals, etc.
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Don't discourage him - we need real world data!

ShaneSauce, please drive the 245's on the street, in sun and in rain, and then report your findings here. If it turns out that the experiment was a success or a failure, we all benefit from your trials, and will thank you.
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I am honestly thinking about just pulling the trigger on these for daily duty.

By the time I buy a 225/45 100TW r888 or NT01 on a 15x9 I might as well just go with the RC1. I think I will survive in the rain as long as I keep it under 50mph.

I am going with work wheels so would I see any difference between a x9.5 versus a x10?
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I drive my RC1s daily with no issues, 2 hours to autocross events. although I haven't experienced rain yet on them(thank god). Wear is pretty minimal so far and it is nice having the extra traction when hooliganing occurs.

Of course, I only intend to do so until I pick up some RS3s. With the cost of rebuilding my head and other things it has delayed that purchase.
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Unless you are racing for points or $$$, I'd suggest a more practical street oriented tire such as the Toyo RA1 or NT01.
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The big problem with DDing R compounds is that most of them heat cycle out before they run out of tread. Running them on the street is putting extra, pointless heat cycles on them -- not as hot as a track session, certainly, but still warm enough to count. I don't know specifically if RC-1s suffer from this or not, but it seems likely. The only R compound I know of on which this isn't a big deal is the RA1.

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I just picked up 225 RC1s that will be used to drive an average of 2,000 street miles/year (to and from tracks, quick trips to the market) and couple hours of track time/year. I wanted to have two sets of wheels but it's a bit cost prohibitive and i don't use the car much since i take the bus to work.

I figure if it lasts 2 years in this manner, i'll be happy. I live in socal, so it doesn't rain much. If rain makes it impossible to drive home, I can always just have it towed.
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The big problem with DDing R compounds is that most of them heat cycle out before they run out of tread. Running them on the street is putting extra, pointless heat cycles on them -- not as hot as a track session, certainly, but still warm enough to count. I don't know specifically if RC-1s suffer from this or not, but it seems likely. The only R compound I know of on which this isn't a big deal is the RA1.

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My understanding is that the RC1's are not R comps, but that the compound and grip is similar to an RS3/Rival, but with greater durability.

In that case, I believe heat cycling is an issue but not nearly to the extent that it is on a real R comp.

disclaimer: All of the above information is gleaned from reading and not personal experience. Please correct me if I need correcting
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My understanding is that the RC1's are not R comps, but that the compound and grip is similar to an RS3/Rival, but with greater durability.
Well, I've never used one, but the web site:

Victra RC-1 | Maxxis USA

describes it as:

"DOT-approved R compound optimized for the weekend warrior"

and it shows a tire with the minimum DOT spec of 2 circumferential grooves, just like an RR or a Hoosier R6.

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I understand the heat cycling could be an issue but would it really count as a full blown heat cycle cruising around town?

I am tempted to just give them a shot, and I know that a mild stretch is common with the 225 tires on a 9 but I want meaty tires with no stretch. Would I benefit more from a 15x9.5 or a 15x10 with the 245/40/15?
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I really want to run the Maxxis 245/40 on some 15x10
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wouldn't it be a good idea to just get some xxr's and el-cheapo' all seasons for road duty.
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Wouldn't it be a good idea to just get some XXR wheels and cheap, all season tires for road duty?
See post number six.
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I'd street them without cutting grooves. But I've also driven A6s in the pouring rain, so I know the sky wont be falling.
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Leafy as long as the sky doesn't start falling I will be alright.

Should I try and get the works in a similar offset to the 6ul 15x10 +25 or so? What is the margin of error on the offset in terms of hitting the shock tower and turn radius? I am obviously using flares so body fitment isn't the issue.
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