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LukeG 02-01-2019 11:32 AM

Their site says it is discontinued. Anything similar you would recommend?

Blackbird 02-01-2019 01:06 PM


Originally Posted by TNTUBA (Post 1521257)
It was exactly 11 lbs heavier with the bellhousing attached than a stock 5 speed.

Thanks!
That's 3 Lbs heavier than a factory 6 speed (which is 8 lbs heavier than the fiver), and for where the weight is located, it's almost a wash... Good stuff!

Leafy 02-02-2019 09:47 AM

No one makes something similar to the racelogic anymore. If you can program you could add the functionality to MS, but its not there by default.

Eric, thats a 4 speed right?

Bronson M 02-02-2019 09:56 AM


Originally Posted by Leafy (Post 1521374)
No one makes something similar to the racelogic anymore. If you can program you could add the functionality to MS, but its not there by default.

Eric, thats a 4 speed right?

Leafy are you saying megasquirt doesn't have traction control? Cause it's in there, works pretty well in a strait line, not so much in the corners.

Leafy 02-02-2019 09:59 AM


Originally Posted by Bronson M (Post 1521375)
Leafy are you saying megasquirt doesn't have traction control? Cause it's in there, works pretty well in a strait line, not so much in the corners.

MS has traction control but not like the racelogic. The RL takes all 4 wheel speed sensors and uses them to determine if the car is turning or going straight and allows for different % of slip depending on the turn. Eric can speak if it even determines the radius and allows varying amount of slip for the corner radius, I havent been deep enough into the RL to know.

Bronson M 02-02-2019 10:10 AM


Originally Posted by Leafy (Post 1521376)
MS has traction control but not like the racelogic. The RL takes all 4 wheel speed sensors and uses them to determine if the car is turning or going straight and allows for different % of slip depending on the turn. Eric can speak if it even determines the radius and allows varying amount of slip for the corner radius, I havent been deep enough into the RL to know.

Gotcha, I would say that racelogic does is boardering on stability control but that's just a name.

Leafy 02-02-2019 10:13 AM


Originally Posted by Bronson M (Post 1521378)
Gotcha, I would say that racelogic does is boardering on stability control but that's just a name.

It doesn't really apply the brakes. Ford has had traction control that judges sidewaysness in mustangs since the late 90s but they basically used it as a safety device where you could turn the traction control "off" but as soon as your burnout got slippy TC comes back on.

TNTUBA 02-02-2019 05:13 PM


Originally Posted by LukeG (Post 1521290)
Their site says it is discontinued. Anything similar you would recommend?

Yea, They discontinued it about 5 years ago. They do come up used from time to time. But when they do, they don't last long. I have actually bought 3 just so I am sure I will have one if something goes wrong with mine.


Originally Posted by Leafy (Post 1521374)
No one makes something similar to the racelogic anymore. If you can program you could add the functionality to MS, but its not there by default.

Eric, thats a 4 speed right?

Yea, unfortunately there isn't anything like the RaceLogic on the market. With the MS traction control is great, the RaceLogic is actually old F1 Technology and designed to work well in a car that turns.

Yea, It's a 4 speed. I have it geared currently to have a VERY small split between 2nd and 3rd. and 4th is 1:1.


Originally Posted by Bronson M (Post 1521375)
Leafy are you saying megasquirt doesn't have traction control? Cause it's in there, works pretty well in a strait line, not so much in the corners.


Originally Posted by Leafy (Post 1521376)
MS has traction control but not like the racelogic. The RL takes all 4 wheel speed sensors and uses them to determine if the car is turning or going straight and allows for different % of slip depending on the turn. Eric can speak if it even determines the radius and allows varying amount of slip for the corner radius, I havent been deep enough into the RL to know.

Leafy is correct here. The RLTC reads the signals of all 4 wheel speed sensors. It then compares them to determine the speed of the car, if the car is going straight or turning and even how sever the turn is. There are different cut maps for going straight, turning, dry, wet and for "low speed get away" the unit I have also incorporates Launch Control. It took me about 5 years to get all the cut maps to work well and to be seamless.


TNTUBA 02-05-2019 06:30 AM

It's alive.....and it makes the COOLEST noises :)

TNTUBA 02-05-2019 04:24 PM


Leafy 02-06-2019 09:52 PM


Originally Posted by TNTUBA (Post 1521435)
Yea, It's a 4 speed. I have it geared currently to have a VERY small split between 2nd and 3rd. and 4th is 1:1.

Huh we've always talked about doing that in like EP hondas and stuff because you could mix and match and they were low power but I figured you'd have had the powerband to go the other way. With the turbo my 1.8 had like a 38mph to 72mph powerband and more 32-76 with the 2.5 litre so going to a gutted 5 speed locked into 4th with a speedway or winters quick change in a 7something rear end ratio seemed like a reasonable option to drop weight and drop failure points. I even did some test launches in 2nd and it didnt really have a negative impact besides probably making the clutch something to replace once or twice a year.

SUV-ETR 02-19-2019 12:16 PM

Always cool to see the build progress!

Question: Why did you keep the PPF? Seems like that's the first thing I'd get rid of. Aside from all the drive line wind-up that thing introduces, I had the pleasure of being underneath an F-Production car with a PPF delete, and was really impressed how much easier everything looks. They say it makes R&Ring the diff and/or trans a LOT easier.

Neal

TNTUBA 02-20-2019 08:09 PM

Playing with the new gearbox, new power and the line lock.

There are a number of reasons I see to keep the PPF in a car like this, even with solid aluminum diff and motor mounts. The biggest being able to use the pinion climbing the ring gear to transfer more weight to the rear tires on launch for pros. (I don't think there is another production chassis, front engine / rear drive car that 60's better than this car in all of Solo) and a big part of that is me being able to apply some of the tricks I learned back in my drag racing days that really work on this chassis.


mx5-kiwi 02-20-2019 09:09 PM

How does that not axle tramp its arse off? (literally)

TNTUBA 02-20-2019 09:12 PM

Proper suspension setup and great shocks.

I drove an SP car (Took FTD and FTP my first time sitting in the car) and the wheel hop on my first run made me think something in the car was broken.

The absence of wheel hop is why I have been on the same set of axles for 5+ years and SP cars break 4 sets a year while making literally less than 1/3 the power and going 1/2 second slower to 60'

LukeG 02-20-2019 10:33 PM

What tires are you using?

flier129 02-21-2019 11:03 AM


Originally Posted by LukeG (Post 1523931)
What tires are you using?

biggens'



A7s....

SUV-ETR 02-21-2019 09:54 PM


Originally Posted by flier129 (Post 1523987)
biggens'
A7s....

Idunno...they're smaller than mine. But I guess I owe Eric some thanks for making that happen. :bigtu:

TNTUBA 02-27-2019 08:14 PM

So I got to drive it in anger at a Test in Tune this weekend.

The gearbox is GLORIOUS.

The new suspension setup in MAGIC out of the box and there is still room to improve it.

And the new power.....O.M.G.

TNTUBA 03-09-2019 05:24 PM

Got another test n tune in this weekend. First National Event of the year is in 5 days.



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