Race Prep Miata race-only chat.
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

HANS Devices Much Cheaper in England Right Now

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 11-17-2016, 11:53 AM
  #1  
Moderator
Thread Starter
iTrader: (12)
 
sixshooter's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Tampa, Florida
Posts: 20,647
Total Cats: 3,009
Default HANS Devices Much Cheaper in England Right Now

FIA approved (which makes them legal here) HANS devices are really cheap right now thanks to Brexit. Take this opportunity to make yourself safer while it's much cheaper.

Stand21 Racing Series 2 HANS Device | Demon Tweeks

Stand21 Club Series HANS Device | Demon Tweeks

Some of the other actual HANS branded stuff has notes about not being available to USA buyers.

SCCA guys on another forum were talking about how even with shipping these were hundreds of dollars cheaper than stateside.

I haven't looked to see if there are any other deals to be had.
sixshooter is offline  
Old 11-17-2016, 11:58 AM
  #2  
Elite Member
iTrader: (4)
 
hornetball's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Granbury, TX
Posts: 6,301
Total Cats: 696
Default

Dang! Nice find.
hornetball is offline  
Old 11-17-2016, 12:10 PM
  #3  
573
Junior Member
iTrader: (2)
 
573's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Troy, Michigan
Posts: 252
Total Cats: 17
Default

I bought the Schroth equivalent to that from the same site several months ago for ~$290. Shipping to Michigan was $35. Quite a bit cheaper than a good wheel chair, I imagine.
573 is offline  
Old 11-17-2016, 12:14 PM
  #4  
Junior Member
iTrader: (1)
 
zellers88's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2016
Location: Indianapolis, IN
Posts: 242
Total Cats: 68
Default

Yup, I ordered the Schroth Super Sport when I ordered my belts from them. Fast shipping but you do have to pay a customs fee (I think it was $30 for a HANS and two belts). MSAR Safety is another British company with similar pricing and easy to deal with. Ordered a set of Tillett seats from them, waiting for them to show up.
zellers88 is offline  
Old 11-17-2016, 01:21 PM
  #5  
Newb
 
JoshEE's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2015
Location: Austin, TX
Posts: 39
Total Cats: 0
Default

It's funny you mention this I have been looking at the Schroth Enduro harness and their XLT HANS device and the prices have actually gone up quite a bit in the last month or so. The Enduro harness was $407 last I checked and is at $463 today, I guess the British pound must be going back up lately.

Schroth Enduro Harness Black | Demon Tweeks

I should probably just order the damn things before they go up any more.
JoshEE is offline  
Old 11-17-2016, 02:02 PM
  #6  
SADFab Destructive Testing Engineer
iTrader: (5)
 
aidandj's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: Beaverton, USA
Posts: 18,642
Total Cats: 1,866
Default

@yank
aidandj is offline  
Old 11-17-2016, 02:19 PM
  #7  
Junior Member
 
freedomgli's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Posts: 230
Total Cats: -23
Default

Arbitrage.
freedomgli is offline  
Old 11-17-2016, 02:23 PM
  #8  
Junior Member
 
freedomgli's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Posts: 230
Total Cats: -23
Default

Originally Posted by JoshEE
I guess the British pound must be going back up lately.
Demon Tweeks probably also uses pricing algorithms just like Amazon or the airline industry.
freedomgli is offline  
Old 11-17-2016, 04:32 PM
  #9  
Supporting Vendor
iTrader: (1)
 
turbofan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Lake Forest, CA
Posts: 7,949
Total Cats: 1,003
Default

I will also tag @yank and message him on the book of faces

I thought I got a good deal when I bought the european one for $400... and I did. But not nearly this good...
__________________
Ed@949Racing/Supermiata
www.949racing.com
www.supermiata.com
turbofan is offline  
Old 11-17-2016, 04:40 PM
  #10  
Junior Member
 
e1_griego's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Salem, Ore.
Posts: 63
Total Cats: 6
Default

These don't have SFI tags, if it matters. Just on the strap.

Also, I think they won't ship to the U.S. any more.

I picked one up 6 months ago (L Sport II) before they stopped. (Probably for sale in the next week or two, though).

The prices have been super cheap well before Brexit.
e1_griego is offline  
Old 11-17-2016, 04:54 PM
  #11  
Newb
 
JoshEE's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2015
Location: Austin, TX
Posts: 39
Total Cats: 0
Default

I think it's only the hans branded ones that won't ship to the US, they have a pretty clear disclaimer on the description of those. It's unfortunate, the Sport II is pretty inexpensive and has SFI certification as well.

http://www.demon-tweeks.co.uk/motors...ii-hans-device
JoshEE is offline  
Old 11-17-2016, 04:55 PM
  #12  
SADFab Destructive Testing Engineer
iTrader: (5)
 
aidandj's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: Beaverton, USA
Posts: 18,642
Total Cats: 1,866
Default

Originally Posted by e1_griego
These don't have SFI tags, if it matters. Just on the strap.

Also, I think they won't ship to the U.S. any more.

I picked one up 6 months ago (L Sport II) before they stopped. (Probably for sale in the next week or two, though).

The prices have been super cheap well before Brexit.
Probably patent related.

I might be interested in the large. Hit me up.
aidandj is offline  
Old 11-17-2016, 05:00 PM
  #13  
Junior Member
 
e1_griego's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Salem, Ore.
Posts: 63
Total Cats: 6
Default

I've given right of first refusal to someone. I'll let you know if it falls through.
e1_griego is offline  
Old 11-18-2016, 12:40 AM
  #14  
Senior Member
iTrader: (1)
 
yank's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 661
Total Cats: 32
Default

Nice find!
yank is offline  
Old 11-18-2016, 05:52 AM
  #15  
Elite Member
iTrader: (2)
 
Oscar's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Bolton, UK
Posts: 3,022
Total Cats: 120
Default

I'd have no problem forwarding a couple of these to the US if your desired model won't be shipped beyond UK/Europe.
Oscar is offline  
Old 11-19-2016, 01:50 AM
  #16  
Senior Member
 
2slow's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2016
Location: San Diego
Posts: 557
Total Cats: 54
Default

I think asking those guys for a group buy could get the price down even more...
2slow is offline  
Old 11-19-2016, 09:05 AM
  #17  
Junior Member
 
Pist0n's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2015
Posts: 57
Total Cats: 3
Default

I would be in.
Pist0n is offline  
Old 11-19-2016, 12:32 PM
  #18  
Senior Member
 
2slow's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2016
Location: San Diego
Posts: 557
Total Cats: 54
Default

I'm contacting them to see if they are interested and what terms they can offer. Will let you know what comes of it.
2slow is offline  
Old 11-24-2016, 04:54 PM
  #19  
Newb
 
14500rpm's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: London, UK
Posts: 1
Total Cats: 0
Default

Originally Posted by zellers88
MSAR Safety is another British company with similar pricing and easy to deal with. Ordered a set of Tillett seats from them, waiting for them to show up.
A +1 for MSAR from me, I also bought my Tillett seat from there (they are local to me) and they couldn't have been better. They do most of their business outside of the UK from what I gather so shipping to the US won't be an issue. Recommended.
14500rpm is offline  
Old 11-29-2016, 01:56 PM
  #20  
Senior Member
 
2slow's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2016
Location: San Diego
Posts: 557
Total Cats: 54
Default

A small update, as I've got information back from Demon Tweeks
They can do a group buy and lower the price noticeably if we order at least 20 units. Now, considering that most were interested because of the price, I assume that everyone is more interested in the Club version of the device since we are a budget conscious bunch. We can mix sizes within the same 20 unit order, but we can't mix two models (Club and Race).

Stand21 Club Series
- Composite
- FIA
- 1050gr (~2.3lb)
- M/L - Fits collar sizes 15"-18" (38-45.5cm)
- L/XL - Fits collar sizes above 18" (45.5cm)
- 20 degree layback
~ $225

Stand21 Racing Series 2
- Carbon fiber
- FIA
- 850gr (~1.9lb)
- M/L - Fits collar sizes 15"-18" (38-45.5cm)
- L/XL - Fits collar sizes above 18" (45.5cm)
- 20 degree layback
~ $310


What is included in the price shown above:
- HANS device
- Delivery to your home
- small shipping cost variance fee (they can't give exact shipping price for each person as they don't have addresses. They ball-parked the average shipping cost to USA, but I've added another $10 on top to cover any shipping and currency conversion variances. I hope that's enough, but may be worth to make it $15 or so. Still comes out a lot cheaper than buying one locally.

What is NOT included in the price
- any unexpected extra costs (someone living in Hawaii may end up paying more for shipping), see below for specifics:
-- PayPal fees if used to collect individual payments and send it to them
-- potential currency conversion variance (prices are calculated from British pounds via Google results, but bank's rate may differ slightly. If we send money in USD, Demon Tweeks will charge 5% currency conversion fee.
-- any potential import duties. in the past, when I've ordered individual parts and auto items form Europe (France, Germany, Poland) I never had to pay any import duties, customs fees, etc.
- no free bag with this order

UNKNOWN: Someone above noted that they had to pay customs/import fee. I would be glad to find out if all of us will end up with additional payment from the government, but no idea how to find out for certain. From my experience it depends on who and how looks at the package when it's clearing customs and how paperwork is filled out when seller sends the package.

What I propose: See if we can get order of 20 units. Collect payments via paypal personal to evade fees, have one person make the order for everyone. Feedback?

They can accept payment via PayPal or Credit Card and would prefer to have it in British pounds either via Credit card or by direct wire transfer. I feel safer with Credit card since wire transfers are fully non-reversible.
2slow is offline  



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 08:07 PM.