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Old Jun 7, 2016 | 04:14 PM
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The Schroth folded/sewn sub straps are worth paying the extra money for over the OMP, IMO. That feature is the single biggest difference between the Profi and other belts - the comfort level on the Profi subs is mega.

Pull-up vs pull-down: The Schroth is reversible, but I always end up running them in pull-down config and then routing the excess belt through the hole in the seat. I use the seat as a pulley to convert the pull-down motion into a pull-up motion. When I set the belts up in pull-up mode, I can never get the adjuster close enough to the buckle to not interfere with the seat.
Old Jun 7, 2016 | 04:28 PM
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Yeah, I was just noticing that. None of the others have easily adjustable substraps (i.e., need to pull the seat to adjust the subs).
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Wow, I didn't know the OMP offerings didn't have adjustable anti-sub belts.

Most here know how important it is to correctly adjust anti-sub belt(s) for crash safety, and I wouldn't consider a belt that doesn't have easily adjustable anti-sub belts.
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For a single driver, not a big deal -- just a bit of a pain to get right the first time as you'll need to pull the seat a couple of times.

For a passenger seat, mandatory I think.
Old Jun 7, 2016 | 05:23 PM
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For you, you take a lot of people for rides, so it would make things much easier and probably safer to have an Enduro belt in the passenger side. Also, I really just want to ride in your car with the Enduro harness

Some drivers have removable seat cushions they run on the street, and take them out on track days. That's what I'm planning for my Sparco. At least on mine, it's definately thick enough to need to adjust the anti-sub strap after you remove it. I'm sure many people would forget or be inclined to just leave their sub straps alone if they need to remove their seat to adjust them.
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Originally Posted by hornetball
For a single driver, not a big deal -- just a bit of a pain to get right the first time as you'll need to pull the seat a couple of times.

For a passenger seat, mandatory I think.
or for passenger side have the seat mounted on a slider and have them slide forward until the 5/6 point is properly adjusted.
Old Jun 7, 2016 | 06:22 PM
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or for passenger side have the seat mounted on a slider and have them slide forward until the 5/6 point is properly adjusted.
Hadn't thought of that.

Not feasible for me, though -- running an aluminum seat with a really stout, non-adjustable seat back brace. But with a composite seat, absolutely.
Old Jun 9, 2016 | 11:33 AM
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Originally Posted by hornetball
Hadn't thought of that.

Not feasible for me, though -- running an aluminum seat with a really stout, non-adjustable seat back brace. But with a composite seat, absolutely.
I hated consistently trying to have passenger noobs adjust my harness. So I used to have them just cam lock in then slide their seat forward as far as possible. It would take care of the lower points well then they'd just adjust the shoulder harness. EZ-PZ
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I would highly recommend the turn one harness.

Very high quality and great price.
Old Jun 12, 2016 | 10:33 PM
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My local race shop, MER, had several cars available with these types of harnesses installed. I test-sat in an MX-5 practice car that had Safecrafts on the driver side and a Schroth Pofi-II on the passenger. Both harnesses were light-years beyond the G-Forces, but the Safecrafts won me over. MER cut me a deal on 2 harnesses so there wasn't a huge delta over the Schroth's.

Highly recommend test sits, both for seats and harnesses.
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Good choice. Those are really nice belts.
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Second the good choice comment, love mine.
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Sparco has a new Enduro belt and it's crazy cheap.

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Wow. That looks like a fantastic value.
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Jeez, that makes me regret buying Schroth harnesses.

Those are 1/3 of the price of Schroth Enduros.
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Never regret getting Schrott polyester compared to nylon. The difference stretch at impact is large (10% vs 30% IIRC).
(Just assuming the Spacing belts are nylon as they have been for ages)
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Meh. For the extra $40/yr, I'll still buy the Schroth with the folded sub strap. You won't understand how big a deal that is until you try the Schroth belts.
Old Feb 2, 2017 | 03:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Savington
The Schroth folded/sewn sub straps are worth paying the extra money for over the OMP, IMO. That feature is the single biggest difference between the Profi and other belts - the comfort level on the Profi subs is mega.

Pull-up vs pull-down: The Schroth is reversible, but I always end up running them in pull-down config and then routing the excess belt through the hole in the seat. I use the seat as a pulley to convert the pull-down motion into a pull-up motion. When I set the belts up in pull-up mode, I can never get the adjuster close enough to the buckle to not interfere with the seat.
So you put the pig tails of the harness through the seat and then pull up on it?
Do you think they are long enough to do the same on a bigger guy(6-5" #240) ?

We are looking at the Profi II 6H to allow for the Hans option at a later date.
Then probably the Profi II 6 for the passenger...I assume this is easier to adjust than the clubman for the passenger?
Are those the droids I am looking for?
Old Feb 2, 2017 | 01:07 PM
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Originally Posted by nbfather
So you put the pig tails of the harness through the seat and then pull up on it?
Do you think they are long enough to do the same on a bigger guy(6-5" #240) ?
Hard to say without trying it. My guess would be that you may be big enough to give yourself enough room to adjust a pull-down without needing to run the leftover strap through the seat.

We are looking at the Profi II 6H to allow for the Hans option at a later date.
I would allow for a HNRS device at the same time. It's not a good idea to wear a harness without one.



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