Harness Recommendation - Page 2 - Miata Turbo Forum - Boost cars, acquire cats.

Welcome to Miataturbo.net   Members
 


Race Prep Miata race-only chat.
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

Reply
 
 
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 06-07-2016, 05:14 PM   #21
Supporting Vendor
iTrader: (31)
 
Savington's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Sunnyvale, CA
Posts: 14,372
Total Cats: 1,339
Default

The Schroth folded/sewn sub straps are worth paying the extra money for over the OMP, IMO. That feature is the single biggest difference between the Profi and other belts - the comfort level on the Profi subs is mega.

Pull-up vs pull-down: The Schroth is reversible, but I always end up running them in pull-down config and then routing the excess belt through the hole in the seat. I use the seat as a pulley to convert the pull-down motion into a pull-up motion. When I set the belts up in pull-up mode, I can never get the adjuster close enough to the buckle to not interfere with the seat.
Savington is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-07-2016, 05:28 PM   #22
Elite Member
Thread Starter
iTrader: (3)
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Granbury, TX
Posts: 6,012
Total Cats: 584
Default

Yeah, I was just noticing that. None of the others have easily adjustable substraps (i.e., need to pull the seat to adjust the subs).
hornetball is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 06-07-2016, 06:01 PM   #23
Junior Member
iTrader: (2)
 
Join Date: May 2014
Location: Arlington, TX
Posts: 328
Total Cats: 40
Default

Wow, I didn't know the OMP offerings didn't have adjustable anti-sub belts.

Most here know how important it is to correctly adjust anti-sub belt(s) for crash safety, and I wouldn't consider a belt that doesn't have easily adjustable anti-sub belts.
Dustin1824 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-07-2016, 06:03 PM   #24
Elite Member
Thread Starter
iTrader: (3)
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Granbury, TX
Posts: 6,012
Total Cats: 584
Default

For a single driver, not a big deal -- just a bit of a pain to get right the first time as you'll need to pull the seat a couple of times.

For a passenger seat, mandatory I think.
hornetball is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 06-07-2016, 06:23 PM   #25
Junior Member
iTrader: (2)
 
Join Date: May 2014
Location: Arlington, TX
Posts: 328
Total Cats: 40
Default

For you, you take a lot of people for rides, so it would make things much easier and probably safer to have an Enduro belt in the passenger side. Also, I really just want to ride in your car with the Enduro harness

Some drivers have removable seat cushions they run on the street, and take them out on track days. That's what I'm planning for my Sparco. At least on mine, it's definately thick enough to need to adjust the anti-sub strap after you remove it. I'm sure many people would forget or be inclined to just leave their sub straps alone if they need to remove their seat to adjust them.
Dustin1824 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-07-2016, 07:11 PM   #26
Senior Member
iTrader: (8)
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Azusa, CA
Posts: 1,376
Total Cats: 80
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by hornetball View Post
For a single driver, not a big deal -- just a bit of a pain to get right the first time as you'll need to pull the seat a couple of times.

For a passenger seat, mandatory I think.
or for passenger side have the seat mounted on a slider and have them slide forward until the 5/6 point is properly adjusted.
cyotani is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-07-2016, 07:22 PM   #27
Elite Member
Thread Starter
iTrader: (3)
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Granbury, TX
Posts: 6,012
Total Cats: 584
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by cyotani View Post
or for passenger side have the seat mounted on a slider and have them slide forward until the 5/6 point is properly adjusted.
Hadn't thought of that.

Not feasible for me, though -- running an aluminum seat with a really stout, non-adjustable seat back brace. But with a composite seat, absolutely.
hornetball is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 06-09-2016, 12:33 PM   #28
Senior Member
iTrader: (8)
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Azusa, CA
Posts: 1,376
Total Cats: 80
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by hornetball View Post
Hadn't thought of that.

Not feasible for me, though -- running an aluminum seat with a really stout, non-adjustable seat back brace. But with a composite seat, absolutely.
I hated consistently trying to have passenger noobs adjust my harness. So I used to have them just cam lock in then slide their seat forward as far as possible. It would take care of the lower points well then they'd just adjust the shoulder harness. EZ-PZ
cyotani is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-09-2016, 05:51 PM   #29
d k
Junior Member
iTrader: (4)
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Posts: 257
Total Cats: -1
Default

I would highly recommend the turn one harness.

Very high quality and great price.
d k is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-12-2016, 11:33 PM   #30
Elite Member
Thread Starter
iTrader: (3)
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Granbury, TX
Posts: 6,012
Total Cats: 584
Default

My local race shop, MER, had several cars available with these types of harnesses installed. I test-sat in an MX-5 practice car that had Safecrafts on the driver side and a Schroth Pofi-II on the passenger. Both harnesses were light-years beyond the G-Forces, but the Safecrafts won me over. MER cut me a deal on 2 harnesses so there wasn't a huge delta over the Schroth's.

Highly recommend test sits, both for seats and harnesses.
hornetball is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 06-13-2016, 12:42 AM   #31
Senior Member
iTrader: (3)
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: KY
Posts: 700
Total Cats: 51
Default

Good choice. Those are really nice belts.
jpreston is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-15-2016, 09:31 PM   #32
Junior Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Colorado
Posts: 166
Total Cats: 5
Default

Second the good choice comment, love mine.
GraemeD is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-27-2017, 10:19 AM   #33
Senior Member
iTrader: (3)
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: KY
Posts: 700
Total Cats: 51
Default

jpreston is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-27-2017, 03:41 PM   #34
Elite Member
iTrader: (4)
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Charlotte, NC
Posts: 3,054
Total Cats: 8
Default

God Bless the Brexit!
Efini~FC3S is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 01-27-2017, 03:50 PM   #35
Elite Member
Thread Starter
iTrader: (3)
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Granbury, TX
Posts: 6,012
Total Cats: 584
Default

Wow. That looks like a fantastic value.
hornetball is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 01-27-2017, 08:00 PM   #36
Junior Member
iTrader: (2)
 
Join Date: May 2014
Location: Arlington, TX
Posts: 328
Total Cats: 40
Default

Jeez, that makes me regret buying Schroth harnesses.

Those are 1/3 of the price of Schroth Enduros.
Dustin1824 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-28-2017, 02:08 PM   #37
Senior Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Sweden
Posts: 1,392
Total Cats: 58
Default

Never regret getting Schrott polyester compared to nylon. The difference stretch at impact is large (10% vs 30% IIRC).
(Just assuming the Spacing belts are nylon as they have been for ages)
NiklasFalk is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-30-2017, 04:06 PM   #38
Supporting Vendor
iTrader: (31)
 
Savington's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Sunnyvale, CA
Posts: 14,372
Total Cats: 1,339
Default

Meh. For the extra $40/yr, I'll still buy the Schroth with the folded sub strap. You won't understand how big a deal that is until you try the Schroth belts.
Savington is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-02-2017, 04:24 AM   #39
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2017
Location: Victoria BC
Posts: 148
Total Cats: 2
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Savington View Post
The Schroth folded/sewn sub straps are worth paying the extra money for over the OMP, IMO. That feature is the single biggest difference between the Profi and other belts - the comfort level on the Profi subs is mega.

Pull-up vs pull-down: The Schroth is reversible, but I always end up running them in pull-down config and then routing the excess belt through the hole in the seat. I use the seat as a pulley to convert the pull-down motion into a pull-up motion. When I set the belts up in pull-up mode, I can never get the adjuster close enough to the buckle to not interfere with the seat.
So you put the pig tails of the harness through the seat and then pull up on it?
Do you think they are long enough to do the same on a bigger guy(6-5" #240) ?

We are looking at the Profi II 6H to allow for the Hans option at a later date.
Then probably the Profi II 6 for the passenger...I assume this is easier to adjust than the clubman for the passenger?
Are those the droids I am looking for?
nbfather is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-02-2017, 02:07 PM   #40
Supporting Vendor
iTrader: (31)
 
Savington's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Sunnyvale, CA
Posts: 14,372
Total Cats: 1,339
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by nbfather View Post
So you put the pig tails of the harness through the seat and then pull up on it?
Do you think they are long enough to do the same on a bigger guy(6-5" #240) ?
Hard to say without trying it. My guess would be that you may be big enough to give yourself enough room to adjust a pull-down without needing to run the leftover strap through the seat.

Quote:
We are looking at the Profi II 6H to allow for the Hans option at a later date.
I would allow for a HNRS device at the same time. It's not a good idea to wear a harness without one.
Savington is offline   Reply With Quote
 
 
Reply

Related Topics
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Koni Race/Swift Springs/FCM shock mount setup xcoldricex Miata parts for sale/trade 4 10-12-2016 02:54 PM
Confused on oil lines. ads5053 DIY Turbo Discussion 3 06-08-2016 05:36 PM
cam signal error causing timing error/cut out Darbymx5 AEM 5 06-07-2016 04:11 PM
Iggee NA Miata artificial leather seat covers JustinOMGWTF Miata parts for sale/trade 0 06-02-2016 11:22 AM
WTB: Seat Belt Receiver Stalks adamiata WTB 0 05-31-2016 05:49 PM


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 06:37 PM.