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Old Apr 1, 2016 | 01:54 PM
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I will be using Centric rotors, same as what 949racing sells.
Old Apr 1, 2016 | 02:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Efini~FC3S
There are no true "dual purpose" pads.

You really shouldn't be running track compounds on the street.

Swapping pads is easy.

Super easy.

Swapping rotors is easy.


I would not run XP1x/PFCxx on the street. I don't care what the temp range is.
What experience do you have with race pads on the street to back this up?

I ask because I ran XP12/XP10 and DTC-60's on 11" Wilwood kit on the street for the past 3 years. Swapping pads is easy, but not swapping them is easiest. Aside from the rotors getting devoured, they are fine on the street.

I've heard nothing but good things about PFC race pads. They will be next for me.
Old Apr 1, 2016 | 03:09 PM
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I'm only running 205 Hoosiers and 11.75 Wilwood rotors and sport rear rorors, so I've got more brake and less tire than you. I guess he says with that much tire in a full weight car, some of the parts store rotors don't last. Centric is known to be pretty good, though.

Get some Wilwoods when you get a chance. 11.75 was a beautiful step up.
Old Apr 1, 2016 | 03:45 PM
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Originally Posted by sixshooter
I'm only running 205 Hoosiers and 11.75 Wilwood rotors and sport rear rorors, so I've got more brake and less tire than you. I guess he says with that much tire in a full weight car, some of the parts store rotors don't last. Centric is known to be pretty good, though.

Get some Wilwoods when you get a chance. 11.75 was a beautiful step up.
+1. I'm running the same tire/brake setup. The step up from 1.8 brakes was awesome. Pads used to last a weekend. I don't know how long they last now because I'm only 3 weekends in with them, but still tons of material left. Pads are cheaper too

I have way less power than you guys though :(
Old Apr 1, 2016 | 04:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Ian
What experience do you have with race pads on the street to back this up?
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Many moons ago I used to track a turbo Miata...circa 2009-2010. For a short period of time I ran some Hawk race pads on the street and the track. So I do have some experience.

It didn't take me long to realize that it was way better to have two sets of rotors and two sets of pads, and to swap at the beginning and end of a track weekend.
Old Apr 1, 2016 | 07:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Efini~FC3S
It didn't take me long to realize that it was way better to have two sets of rotors and two sets of pads, and to swap at the beginning and end of a track weekend.
Seems like a waste of time to go through swapping, but that's what makes us all special snowflakes I guess. I street RA1's, is that wrong too? Really comes down to personal preference and priority, I just wanted to share my experiences with running the pads in question on the street for years after you said OP shouldn't. knowwhatimean?
Old Apr 1, 2016 | 09:17 PM
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So, the PFC are not available in the sport size so they are out of the equation. I am getting a close split on people saying whether to run the XP12/10 on the street, some are saying yes, some no, so I'm going to try it out. One guy told me he got so used to them that he couldn't go back to standard brakes for the street and gets good life out of them, but did mention they need to be driven a little harder to keep them from wrecking the rotors. I honestly don't drive enough on the street (not a DD) to really worry, but I'll keep my HPS setup just in case I really hate the stronger pads on the street.

So now the only question is whether I go with Carbotech, G-Loc, or another mystery company. PFC not available in 1.8 sport, and I am not interested in a BBK right now.

Any of these pads bonded to the backer, or do they all use rivets?
Old Apr 2, 2016 | 11:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Mazdaspeeder
So, the PFC are not available in the sport size so they are out of the equation. I am getting a close split on people saying whether to run the XP12/10 on the street, some are saying yes, some no, so I'm going to try it out. One guy told me he got so used to them that he couldn't go back to standard brakes for the street and gets good life out of them, but did mention they need to be driven a little harder to keep them from wrecking the rotors. I honestly don't drive enough on the street (not a DD) to really worry, but I'll keep my HPS setup just in case I really hate the stronger pads on the street.

So now the only question is whether I go with Carbotech, G-Loc, or another mystery company. PFC not available in 1.8 sport, and I am not interested in a BBK right now.

Any of these pads bonded to the backer, or do they all use rivets?
I went ahead and got the G-Loc 12/10 pads. They will still be worlds better than what I have now and I'll probably wear them out before I learn to drive at their limit
Old Apr 5, 2016 | 11:22 AM
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until I buy these photos which I'm still sorting through, I can only share the links, so I hope you don't mind clicking. Some of the photos are of an off-road adventure proving you need more than street pads to stop a 140mph Miata

Coach almost picking up that front wheel: WindShadow Photo Studios | Hooked On Driving - Season Opener March - Group B Sunday | HKDODRV-GROUPB-032716-0072
WindShadow Photo Studios | Hooked On Driving - Season Opener March - Group B Sunday | HKDODRV-GROUPB-032716-0026
Huge smile on my face leaving turn 5: WindShadow Photo Studios | Hooked On Driving - Season Opener March - Group A Sunday | HKDODRV-GROUPA-032716-0108

Here's where my instructor got a bad taste of brakes, and where you can see the travel of the XIDAs really well Grin
WindShadow Photo Studios | Hooked On Driving - Season Opener March - Group A Sunday | HKDODRV-GROUPA-032716-0176
WindShadow Photo Studios | Hooked On Driving - Season Opener March - Group A Sunday | HKDODRV-GROUPA-032716-0177
WindShadow Photo Studios | Hooked On Driving - Season Opener March - Group A Sunday | HKDODRV-GROUPA-032716-0178

Also if anyone was on the fence about the 245/40-15x10, you can see it DOES work, and after that rallycross section of track, I only have one small groove cut from the front fender-to-bumper metal tab which I already bent away.
Old Apr 5, 2016 | 01:31 PM
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lol were you guys listening to the radio?
Old Apr 5, 2016 | 11:32 PM
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Originally Posted by thumpetto007
lol were you guys listening to the radio?
I left the radio on by accident and didn't notice cause my volume was just turned down. Thats gotta be at least .5-1sec worth of drag.
Old Apr 26, 2016 | 08:49 PM
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Any in car video? I need more EFR goodness to hold me over until I can buy one...
Old Apr 26, 2016 | 09:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Uncle Humjaba
Any in car video? I need more EFR goodness to hold me over until I can buy one...
I'm running lightning tomorrow for the first time so I'll have a few. I got a GoPro and rollbar mount
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