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Old 12-03-2013, 04:02 PM   #21
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No stupid plastic gasket. I havent weight the brace and associate fasteners but it must be around 5 pounds. Its also in the way of where I want to put my power steering pump maybe.


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Solution, a lighter intake that is also *SP legal. Coming soon.

OP question, check with ARP, they make all kinds of products that don't have a specific application.
I need my roommate to get his *** back up here before I loose my access to the machine shop so we can make two sets of the sweet barrel throttle body itbs.

ARP does sell a set of 300 series stainless studs for this, the ever come with a spare. Not sure if they're stronger or not, but they are more than twice as expensive as going inconel.
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Thats weight towards the rear of the car, I like that weight. its weight on the nose I want to get rid of. And minimum weight doesnt include driver.
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Thats weight towards the rear of the car, I like that weight. its weight on the nose I want to get rid of. And minimum weight doesnt include driver.

Good point.

When you race the car, it doesn't have a driver anyways.
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Good point.

When you race the car, it doesn't have a driver anyways.
Mines remote control, its street mod legal.
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I need my roommate to get his *** back up here before I loose my access to the machine shop so we can make two sets of the sweet barrel throttle body itbs.

ARP does sell a set of 300 series stainless studs for this, the ever come with a spare. Not sure if they're stronger or not, but they are more than twice as expensive as going inconel.
I've looked into ITBs and I wasn't too excited about tuning part throttle etc on a forced induction. But YMMV.
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I've looked into ITBs and I wasn't too excited about tuning part throttle etc on a forced induction. But YMMV.
Not a problem with blended alpha-n and SD. Though I would seriously consider going to a blow through maf setup once that manifold made it onto the car.
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Not a problem with blended alpha-n and SD. Though I would seriously consider going to a blow through maf setup once that manifold made it onto the car.

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Than what? A root canal?
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5 lbs? you are crazy. that brace is no more than 1.5 lbs with the 3 bolts it needs.
Yeah, the OEM intake manifold brace is a featherweight. I only took it off mine because it's in the way of oil cooler hose routing.

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i ran some arp studs with 12pt nuts, just measure your **** an order them. I'm sure they are better steel than anything factory.
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Dorman 675-579 looks like the winner, will order next week.
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That part fits and should be stronger than stock. One broke when I took the manifold off after torquing them to the upper end of the factory spec with my bending beam. Top front one, which broke before, and is the one I hear other breaking most often. I'm just going to run the brace.
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Just installed the ARP SS studs in my head. You want them. They are rated for 170,000 PSI plus. They include washers and 12 point nuts. If one of these breaks.....there is no way to keep them from breaking. Sure...$109 is a lot for 10 studs.....but my time is worth something...and I wont need to worry about changing these again.....I hope
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don't tease - part number?
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I ordered 400-8024. I needed 51mm long studs due to the blower manifold. If you are using a stock intake you might be able to use stock length studs. 400-8023 are 45mm long, 400-8022 are 38mm, 400-8021 32mm.
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Wow I've never broken an intake stud. Use a hondata gasket and no brace. My manifold is defeatured and lightened though.
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My situation is different than Leafy's or yours. I have @ 30lbs of intake and Whippple hanging off that side of the motor.
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Yeah I'm still breaking them while running the brace, just less of them. Theres already 2 in the manifold right now that I felt let go when torquing them this last time, but **** it with the vics manifold its way too big of a pain in the dick to fix. Next time this manifold comes off its being replaced.

I was torquing all of them to 18ftlbs with the bending beam, the two that I'm sure are going to come out broken started just turning with no increase in force around 12ftlbs. Theres no ******* way they're breaking from over torquing for me they look fine but must have developed cracks in the thread root that I didnt notice when I inspected all of them.
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