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k24madness 08-31-2017 08:33 PM

This is a great discovery GeneSplicer! I am not worried about the loss of spline length. If for some reason it did fail at least it's not catastrophic like the way they currently fail.

I run the sticky HooHoo's and would welcome the greater piece of mind these would offer.

psyber_0ptix 09-06-2017 09:59 AM

That radius on the base is sexy.

/IBSubscribed

Bronson M 09-16-2017 04:27 PM

So I got one of these on hand now, from my measurements this is what's needed.

The wheel stud knurl OD is .507" so a Miata specific stud will work. A 1mm or .040" shim washer is needed between the bearing and the hub to get the rotor centered in the bracket. Then both the splines and the overall length of the bearing snout will need to be shortened to fit the Miata spline length. I don't have a spare axle to give measurements but this confirms to me that this will work.

GeneSplicer 09-16-2017 11:29 PM

I'm - or my machinist - is almost done with a pair of machined hubs. Is gonna work no problem. Best thing is, none of the machining is done anywhere that might effect strength - other than in the splines. I hope to have completed n installed pics soon. Now just to find some extended apr studs to press in. I had trouble finding them for the mr-s front hubs (keisler).
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Bronson M 09-17-2017 05:05 AM


Originally Posted by GeneSplicer (Post 1440120)
I'm - or my machinist - is almost done with a pair of machined hubs. Is gonna work no problem. Best thing is, none of the machining is done anywhere that might effect strength - other than in the splines. I hope to have completed n installed pics soon. Now just to find some extended apr studs to press in. I had trouble finding them for the mr-s front hubs (keisler).
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Just use the Miata specific front studs with the. 507" knurl.

GeneSplicer 09-30-2017 09:57 AM

Now to press in extended studs and install into my Keislers :) more pics to come. https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...724492f6bf.jpg
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GeneSplicer 09-30-2017 06:17 PM

Oh yes - as I stated before - miata ARP extended lugs wont work​​​​.
The ID of holes where the mr-s oem lugs came out are .550 (the other 4 empty holes measure .595"), and the mr-s knurled lugs measure .560, Mazda knurled lugs are .580 (.020 too large)... soon as I match up ARP lugs I'll let y'all know... or you could just rock on the mr-s lugs as is (same thread pitch as miata).

Mobius 09-30-2017 08:36 PM

Why wouldn't we just use the mr-s lugs as is?

GeneSplicer 09-30-2017 10:49 PM

Absolutely so - I just want ARP extended lugs

Zajicek 10-02-2017 11:23 AM

Try the mitsubishi extended lugs mentioned in the "when was the last time you changed your rear hubs" thread. ARP part #7717 if I remember correctly.

If your machinist is up for churning out a plug and play solution, I'm in for a set, I don't have a local machinist I trust.

GeneSplicer 10-03-2017 02:13 PM


Originally Posted by Zajicek (Post 1443308)
Try the mitsubishi extended lugs mentioned in the "when was the last time you changed your rear hubs" thread. ARP part #7717 if I remember correctly.

If your machinist is up for churning out a plug and play solution, I'm in for a set, I don't have a local machinist I trust.

He says supply your hubs of choice - he'd do them at $50/hub.

flier129 02-01-2018 01:23 PM

Any word how these have worked on track or even on the street? Any issues at all?

GeneSplicer 02-06-2018 10:15 PM

Sorry man - not subb'd to my own thread!
I haven't gotten my Eliminator back from wiring/tuning, but when I do, it's one of the first things to swap in.

GeneSplicer 02-20-2018 04:27 PM

So for anyone asking, I don't care if you market these or make them yourself. I left the dimension details with my machinist - so if you want exact dimensions of what needs to be done, just pay him to knock you out two... or break out a pair of calipers and mic it out. It's really not hard to figure out what needs to be done. I'm just trying to throw him a little business since he's the one that did all the hard work. I might have discovered this, but it's a free for all as far as I'm concerned :)
If my machinist doesn't care one way or another, I'll list the specs... yeah, I put money into the discovery - but I got a nice pair of mr-s hubs outta it, so I'm happy :)

Follow up - he doesn't care and has limited time to actually work on this anyway. I'm not interested in making money on this so in the spirit of MiataTurbo, I'll post the specs (when I get them) on the modifications needed to the MR-S hubs for them to work - based off OEM hubs (others might be different).

psyber_0ptix 02-20-2018 06:33 PM

Stoked!

Erat 02-20-2018 06:51 PM

Awesome, I think i'm gonna try this. Especially since i have a lathe and tools available.

psyber_0ptix 02-20-2018 06:57 PM


Originally Posted by Erat (Post 1467929)
Awesome, I think i'm gonna try this. Especially since i have a lathe and tools available.

Take my money

Erat 02-20-2018 07:09 PM

Let me practice and ruin mine first.

hi_im_sean 02-22-2018 01:32 PM

I have a set right now for Marcus, im r&d-ing. Sadfab will probably be offering these soon enough. Ill probably write up a how to as well.

Blackbird 02-22-2018 01:41 PM

Very interested in this, timing is perfect since it's time to change the rear hubs on Creampuff.
Did you ever find which ARP studs work in the MRS hubs?


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