My last STS auto x
06-17-2010, 06:38 PM
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My last STS auto x
I ran my last autocross in STS class last weekend. With the turbo hopefully going on this weekend and next i'll have to go to SSM. Here are a few pics.
i'm not a pro by any means and didn't even do that great in my class. but it's always a good time. They are always about 15 miata's there.
i'm not a pro by any means and didn't even do that great in my class. but it's always a good time. They are always about 15 miata's there.
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10-10-2010, 01:13 AM
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A quick review of the front-on shot (3rd row, LHS) indicates about 4+ degrees of roll. I use photography to help setup cars, a low shooting angle helps you see all four tires and you can review any tendency to lift a tire, roll, rub, etc during suitable maneuvers. Bear in mind that tires can briefly grip at higher levels than they can continuously…there are about 4-5 primary performance zones to capture and evaluate.
Here's a famous car being setup on home turf…won Nationals with a massive deficit in power compared to the rivals BTW...turbo was detuned from the original starting point to gain throttle response and broader RPM range…goal being course time results and not dyno sheet envy…I took a few hundred shots of the car from different positions in the types of maneuvers we were concerned with improving…tradeoffs…notice the lack of the typical EVO inside rear wheel lift…that took some doing.
Here's a famous car being setup on home turf…won Nationals with a massive deficit in power compared to the rivals BTW...turbo was detuned from the original starting point to gain throttle response and broader RPM range…goal being course time results and not dyno sheet envy…I took a few hundred shots of the car from different positions in the types of maneuvers we were concerned with improving…tradeoffs…notice the lack of the typical EVO inside rear wheel lift…that took some doing.
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10-10-2010, 04:45 PM
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Disco Dick has a point. I got the biggest front tubular i could from them and it helped me immensely. I used to have Integra guys on bump stops make fun of me for my body roll. Then after my rb sways no more hondafanboidoucherizm. They are cheap and definately worth the money you pay for them.
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10-10-2010, 06:12 PM
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Another setup run shot…see the inside F/R tire contact patches?
Roll is not totally harmful…more important is the contact patch…speaking of which…check out this Alien driver in his now well modified EVO…basing the finish line cone, and the gate before it (out of view)…tough to do if you've been there.
Here's another shot taken just after the 1st one above…note the nature of the outside front tire…see how at full load it still has some negative camber? This is where many tires deliver their very highest cornering grip.
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10-10-2010, 07:16 PM
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I have earned new respect for you. I will do better not to make **** matches with you on m.net. I agree with your statement though, roll isn't that bad, and you have to tune your alignment for it. I did this in a laymans terms to do decent in sts. I was kind of a wild cannon at the time with my set up, retaining my rear sway and what not. Anywho, It is determined this dood needs a front sway. After listening to people and finally not being stubborn, and having my rear say bar studs broken, I have removed mine. However, the benefits of this on a NA car are still unknown (to me).
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10-10-2010, 10:10 PM
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I take it off for 3 reasons. 1. its easy and mine is bolted down lol. 2 Saves weight. 3. A lot easier to see the sides of the track and look ahead. Now when I go to the track I leave it on but auto x it comes off no reason to keep it on
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10-10-2010, 11:27 PM
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I have earned new respect for you. I will do better not to make **** matches with you on m.net. I agree with your statement though, roll isn't that bad, and you have to tune your alignment for it. I did this in a laymans terms to do decent in sts. I was kind of a wild cannon at the time with my set up, retaining my rear sway and what not. Anywho, It is determined this dood needs a front sway. After listening to people and finally not being stubborn, and having my rear say bar studs broken, I have removed mine. However, the benefits of this on a NA car are still unknown (to me).
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10-11-2010, 09:38 AM
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Thanks…I really do have a ton of go-fast knowledge and really have helped many go faster. Openly or behind the scenes. Custom parts and weird stuff too. I hope that some that have attacked me here back off. One or more tried "e-bombing" me, signing me up for weird stuff, etc a few days ago. Apparently that is a big part of what this forum is all about, street punk behavior, forum games. That's a shame. And from moderators here, OMG. If some met me and let me help or could open their minds to any degree, they'd wind up with a faster car and with a smile on their face. Or not.
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10-11-2010, 10:57 AM
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Would help if others did the same, note that you have some mods that take things personal or something. One does PM blasts and threatens, it Seems. AnotHer does other stuff. And they or others tried to do things to my email a few days back. Hope the middle school punk stuff drops off. So, if you feel the need to lecture, include everyone?
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