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Savington 07-24-2013 01:14 PM


Originally Posted by chris101 (Post 1036250)
Meanwhile, SM fastest lap time in 2012 at MidO was a 1:43 and PTE was 1:41.684 in a Honda CRX

lol @ PTE only being 1.5sec faster than SM. This year's PTE field is in for a surprise :giggle:

hustler 07-24-2013 01:17 PM


Originally Posted by Savington (Post 1036245)
Color me shocked.

You are a colored.

chris101 07-24-2013 01:31 PM

:drama:

Efini~FC3S 07-24-2013 05:16 PM

Guys, please take this as a joke. Seriously, don't get butthurt...

:flamesuiton



Originally Posted by Savington (Post 1036258)
lol @ PTE only being 1.5sec faster than SM. This year's field of nobody's is in for a surprise :giggle:

FTFY




Also, LOL at Mr. Rules know-it-all Savington getting PWNd by a girl who he ASSumed knew nothing because she has <300 posts. Little did he know she's been racing in NASA for years...

Again, just in jest

chris101 07-24-2013 05:23 PM

Sadly, it looks like there won't even be a PTF or TTF class to run this year at Nationals :(

MidOhio had a better F class turnout in 2011 and 2012... ...we ran TTF in 2011 and PTF in 2012 but sold the G20 so we won't be running in F class with that car any more and the new owner is about to take Comp school with it in August (So I seriously doubt he will go to Nationals this year with it regardless)

Savington 07-24-2013 05:33 PM


Originally Posted by Efini~FC3S (Post 1036398)
Also, LOL at Mr. Rules know-it-all Savington getting PWNd by a girl who he ASSumed knew nothing because she has <300 posts. Little did he know she's been racing in NASA for years...

I didn't assume anything about her. I assumed Greg would rule a certain way, and he didn't. It won't be the last time he surprises me.


Again, just in jest
Nobody really gave a shit when you shared your opinion on the depth of NASA PT fields the last time you gave it, so I'm genuinely curious as to why you thought anyone would give a shit this time. If you think it's such an easy win, why don't you rent a car and bring it to Miller? It won't be the first time I'll have beaten you in a NASA Championship race.

And don't take this the wrong way or anything, but you're an egotistical prick.

You know, just in jest. :jerkit:

chris101 07-24-2013 05:53 PM

wow.. what just happened here?



...but anyway, off to MidO we go for the weekend......

:skid:

Savington 07-24-2013 06:27 PM


Originally Posted by chris101 (Post 1036404)
Sadly, it looks like there won't even be a PTF or TTF class to run this year at Nationals :(

MidOhio had a better F class turnout in 2011 and 2012... ...we ran TTF in 2011 and PTF in 2012 but sold the G20 so we won't be running in F class with that car any more and the new owner is about to take Comp school with it in August (So I seriously doubt he will go to Nationals this year with it regardless)

F is kind of a cool class from a technical/car building standpoint, but if you're looking at building an F car vs. an E car, the E car isn't going to cost significantly more to get you into a faster car with better fields.

What most surprises me about the Nats fields this year is the lack of front-drivers in E. We've rendered the Rx7s obsolete in E (they all moved to D, actually), but I was expecting to see at least SOMETHING that wasn't a Miata in PTE :party:

chris101 07-24-2013 08:08 PM

^ meanwhile I find it interesting how many Miata's are either leaving SM OR being built as just E cars!

Savington 07-24-2013 09:54 PM


Originally Posted by chris101 (Post 1036456)
^ meanwhile I find it interesting how many Miata's are either leaving SM OR being built as just E cars!

E is an awesome class. You can buy a used SM and convert it into a fairly competitive car for way less than $15k, and you end up with a car that's more fun to drive AND faster. :)

Efini~FC3S 07-25-2013 04:20 PM


Originally Posted by Savington (Post 1036409)
If you think it's such an easy win, why don't you rent a car and bring it to Miller?

So sorry, I'll be at Laguna that weekend...


Originally Posted by Savington
It won't be the first time I'll have beaten you in a NASA Championship race.

Really, I don't recall that? The only time I raced at the NASA Nationals was in 2011 (I think that was the year) and that year I finished 3rd in PTB behind a Grand AM driver and a former NASA National Champ, and was fighting for a podium in Honda Challenge 1 when I had massive brake failure on the last lap. I don't recall you being in either of those races.


Originally Posted by Savington
you're an egotistical prick

I've been called cocky before, and I've been called a d*ck before. Probably will be called those sorts of things again. Oh well...

I promise, in real life I'm a nice guy. ;)

bellwilliam 07-25-2013 05:33 PM


Originally Posted by chris101 (Post 1036404)
Sadly, it looks like there won't even be a PTF or TTF class to run this year at Nationals :(

no PTF/TTF ? any link ?

Savington 07-25-2013 09:17 PM


Originally Posted by bellwilliam (Post 1036822)
no PTF/TTF ? any link ?

Only 1 PTF car signed up. 12 PTE cars, though :party:

chris101 07-25-2013 10:55 PM


Originally Posted by bellwilliam (Post 1036822)
no PTF/TTF ? any link ?

4 entries are required by Sept 1st to allow the class to run and right now only Walter Carlos is signed up for both PTF/TTF. If 3 others do not join in, he will either have to 'upclass' to E to participate (and not be as competitive) or be given a refund per the rules. Last year when TTF didn't happen, he just upclassed to TTE 'to get the track time' and it did help him to have that extra track time because he got 2nd place along with the F track record while working hard trying to catch the G20!

Here is the entry list link:

Entry List Report

Anyway, We sold our G20 so are out of the 'F' game for Nationals this year (plus after winning 2 years in a row, have nothing left to prove with that car to be honest) <-- and lets face it, once you have a well proven, well sorted race car, it is usually the best time to sell it (so we did!) ;)


^ we are working on another F car though (that is, it is a car that can easily move from E to F depending on just a few bolt ons and weight!) ...because building a car to the limits of F is kinda fun!

lightw8 07-28-2013 03:01 AM

I am in process with a track build., cage is being fabricated this week, sparco 2000 and a 6 point harness going in. NASA just made it to Oregon this season, and I am interested in the Pte class. any advice?

chris101 07-28-2013 07:01 AM

^ what year Miata? Are you staying NA for the best reliability or do you plan to track a turbo or supercharged Miata?

I would focus on weight loss and suspension. Lots of people rave about the Fat Cat coilovers because they are set up very specific to you (You tell him what the car weighs, what you want to accomplish, etc. and they are custom made for you)

AST suspension is another very good option (what we plan to get actually when we find a 99 or 2000 to build into a PTE car while visiting Phoenix over thanksgiving week) <-- it is on the short list of possible future track rats for us anyway BUT we will stay NA (not turbo or supercharged for a track rat)

lightw8 08-06-2013 02:13 AM

93 miata. I am open to a motor swap in order to hit hp/wt.

Savington 08-06-2013 03:35 AM


Originally Posted by lightw8 (Post 1040482)
93 miata. I am open to a motor swap in order to hit hp/wt.

Then pick up an 01-05 VVT motor and get to it. :) My PTE car is a VVT-swapped '90 and it's a quick little machine.

We're thinking about making the trek up to PIR in October with NASA, in fact. :party:

lightw8 08-08-2013 12:34 AM


Originally Posted by Savington (Post 1040488)
Then pick up an 01-05 VVT motor and get to it. :) My PTE car is a VVT-swapped '90 and it's a quick little machine.

We're thinking about making the trek up to PIR in October with NASA, in fact. :party:

It might be tough to get it all sorted by then, but the vvt seems to be a wise choice. Engine mgmnt is a question mark, but otherwise it is easy enough.

Wish me luck!

z31maniac 08-08-2013 07:57 AM


Originally Posted by lightw8 (Post 1041421)
It might be tough to get it all sorted by then, but the vvt seems to be a wise choice. Engine mgmnt is a question mark, but otherwise it is easy enough.

Wish me luck!

Brain or Reverant built MS3.

Dyno tune.

Not particularly difficult.


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