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Old 08-15-2012, 04:00 AM   #1
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Question Precision 350hp intercooler vs. Mishimoto Z Line intercooler

I've reached the point in my turbo build where I need to figure out my intercooler setup.

I want to buy something better than a sketchy ebay intercooler but not super spendy like BEGI or FM.

I'm looking at the Precision 350hp intercooler because it seems like they are well built, should be fairly easy to mount, and Track Speed use them in their turbo setup.

However, Mishimoto makes a very similar size intercooler called the Z line for almost $100 less. Lots of folks here are running Mishimoto radiators but I can't find many people using this intercooler so I'm wondering if Mishimoto is not a very good intercooler maker.

Both are 15 fin per inch.

I'm building around a Greddy kit but with all the standard upgrades including an Artech 3" downpipe and exhuast. I'm using it for track days and shooting for a reliable 200hp-ish setup (once I get the MS and larger injectors installed)

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I think you should be just fine with the mishimoto. My buddy has a z line intercooler on his 240 and his IATs are never more than 10* over ambient in Texas. I personally think you're just paying for the name with a Precision, but I don't have any solid evidence to back it up.
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isn't mishimoto just 'branded' ebay stuff? I know the difference between the cxracing radiators and the mishimoto ones is money and a black spray painted stencil on the mishimoto ones. Just get an ebay intercooler of appropriate size and don't worry about it.
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The Precision unit is thicker and shorter, which means it will do just as good a job at keeping IATs down while letting more air to the radiator, which matters. There's a reason we're spending the extra coin on the Precision unit for our kits.
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The zline intercooler has inlets that are slightly offset from the middle as opposed to being on the very bottom like most ebay intercoolers people here get. I have it on my MSM and it did not require the normal bending of any of the lines to mount to my piping as it sits much lower and lets more air pass to the radiator. It does require me to make a DIY shield to keep the seal from the IC to the radiator but it should be fairly simple to do with minimal effort. The precision intercooler may not have this issue. Figured I would give you my 2 cents. Feel free to visit my build thread and check out the fitment yourself as it was the most recent thing I did.
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The Precision unit is thicker and shorter, which means it will do just as good a job at keeping IATs down while letting more air to the radiator, which matters. There's a reason we're spending the extra coin on the Precision unit for our kits.
Because you don't want china in your kits.
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Let me see if I can dig up the info on the one I bought....I searched quite a while and finally found one that did all of the above...for a very reasonable price.
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Found it...

33x6x3.5" Intercooler for $160 through BullseyePower in Michigan...can't find reference to it anywhere on the net...so i have no clue how I tracked it down. It works for me...may be on the long side for others.

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Is that FM piping?

Bullseye Power Turbos

Don't look like they have intercoolers listed anymore, maybe their dealers have some listed.
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The Precision unit is thicker and shorter, which means it will do just as good a job at keeping IATs down while letting more air to the radiator, which matters. There's a reason we're spending the extra coin on the Precision unit for our kits.
Sav, do you have some pics of the Precision 350 mounted on an NB? I'd love to see the fitment and routing with the nose off. Update your site with some pics and full dimensions!

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^Ditto. Also been curious about the 600hp cooler fitment. If nothing else to see if it is within my fab skills. Being that I can't weld...............yet
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Sav, do you have some pics of the Precision 350 mounted on an NB? I'd love to see the fitment and routing with the nose off. Update your site with some pics and full dimensions!
Also, will it work on an NA with A/C?
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Also, will it work on an NA with A/C?
Hell, will it work on an NB1 with AC? Should fit fine on an NB2. With that stupid NB1 AC dryer condenser thing in there, I can't see a 3.5" thick IC fitting.

If your NA condenser look like this: http://www.carsteering.com/data/all_...C-1100-Map.jpg there is probably a good chance in will fit, but don't quote me on it.
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I mounted it way forward...and low...should be plenty of room in NB for AC but not sure on NA until I get it moved over to the 94.
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Here's how I mounted my HP600. It clears the AC condenser and evaporator. I had mounting tabs welded to the lower part of the end caps for the support brackets.







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Here's how I mounted my HP600. It clears the AC condenser and evaporator. I had mounting tabs welded to the lower part of the end caps for the support brackets.

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FML! I wish I had seen something like this months ago I'm guessing the factory scooper thing is no longer part of this assembly? Did you cut up the nose? I'd love to see some shots of the clearance around the nose and the associated ductwork on this.
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Looks like it will fit thickness wise on an NA, but the length may be a tad to long. I'll have to go measure.
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I'm guessing the factory scooper thing is no longer part of this assembly? Did you cut up the nose? I'd love to see some shots of the clearance around the nose and the associated ductwork on this.
Found it in your build thread. Christ, you built a belly pan too? I also discovered that I commented about this in you build thread... I need to start bookmarking things
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Looks like it will fit thickness wise on an NA, but the length may be a tad to long. I'll have to go measure.
Soviet installed the same intercooler in his NA.
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yah I have same IC on NA and I just used 2 brackets. It's very tight and a pain in the ***, but it works.

mine sits completely flush with radiator.
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