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Old 09-29-2014, 12:34 PM   #1
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Apparenly Autosports Labs are coming out with a second version of their data logger.

The original one was, in my opinion, quite amazing. They had a crowdfunding campaign for $250 and I was sad that I missed out on it.

Now they are coming out with a new version and and its pretty baller
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Analog Inputs
Channels                        8 (battery voltage dedicated on channel 8)
Voltage range                   0-5v
Input impedance                 1M ohm
Voltage protection              400v (intermittent)
ADC precision                   12 bit
Maximum sample rate             1000Hz
Mapping                         Raw / Linear formula / Interpolated map

Digital I/O
Channels                        3
Output mode type                Open drain
Output current capacity         1A, inductive clamped
Input mode voltage range        0-12v
input voltage protection        400v (intermittent)
Maximum sample rate             1000Hz
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Timer Inputs (RPM / Frequency)
Channels                        3
Input voltage protection        400v (intermittent)
Maximum sample rate             1000Hz

PWM/Analog outputs
PWM output type                 push/pull
PWM output voltage range        5v
Output current capacity         50mA
Analog Output                   0-5v

Voltage Reference
Output Voltage/Capacity         5v / 1A
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Connectivity
CAN Bus                         2
CAN Channels                    125K, 250K, 500K, 1M baud
CAN baud rate                   14 per channel
CAN filters                     OBDII PID, custom CAN messaging

Protocol support
Telemetry/Wireless
Cellular                        Quad-band GSM (internal module,-optional)
Bluetooth                       Bluetooth 2.0 (external module,-optional)

Serial
Type                            External RJ11
Max Baud Rate                   230400
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Inertial Motion Unit
Accelerometer Channels          3 (X/Y/Z) (2G, 4G capable)
Gyro                            3 (Yaw/Pitch/Roll) (1000 degrees/sec)
Magnetic compass                1 (Bearing) (device capable of 3)

GPS
GPS Type                        External active antenna
GPS Maximum sample rate         50Hz
GPS accuracy                    2.5M CEP

Configuration Capacity
Auto-detect track database      240
Sectors per track               20
Channel support                 200
Physical
Dimensions                      5.34.2″ / 135x110mm (est)
Weight                          9oz / 255gm (est)

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Hi soviet, thanks for sharing! let us know if we can answer any specific questions as it pertains to Miatas / turbo Miatas especially

A couple of weeks ago we were talking with Keith Tanner and the topic of Hydra integration via CAN bus came up. After looking at their CAN bus protocol it'll be very easy to injest that data via one of the CAN ports on RCP.
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Hi soviet, thanks for sharing! let us know if we can answer any specific questions as it pertains to Miatas / turbo Miatas especially

A couple of weeks ago we were talking with Keith Tanner and the topic of Hydra integration via CAN bus came up. After looking at their CAN bus protocol it'll be very easy to injest that data via one of the CAN ports on RCP.
Most of the members use megasquirt so if you can get that CAN protocol to work the Miata turbo community would be happy.

Very nice price for the system. 50Hz gps rate is crazy fast. What data analysis software does your system use?
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Hi cyotani, Good point about megasquirt. Basically we can accept any CAN bus format and translate them into virtual channel data, so long as the format is known.

On the topic of analysis, we'll have 3 options:

1) web based analysis of session data at RaceCapture/Live - Wireless race car data and telemetry system . Data flows to the cloud in real-time via telemetry for live analysis of data, and afterwards.

2) The new V2 app will offer analysis features and be targeted for touch-oriented devices (phone / tablet) - so you won't need your laptop trackside. The app will also run on Windows / OS X / Linux as well. Some app screenshots: http://imgur.com/a/bsyDt

3) For the more traditional approach, we'll provide an easy export to the industry-standard, free-to-use GEMS analysis software: GEMS - General Engine Management Systems Ltd - GEMS Data Analysis - GDA
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So the pre-order price is basically the same as the old RCP price?
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Correct. We haven't yet established pricing after the pre-order phase is complete.
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I didnt see it on the site, whats the end date of the pre-order?
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A good question! Pre-order phase will end when we start shipping the-pre orders. Likely near the beginning of November.
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Will the the temetry module cost the same $129.99 after the preorder is over? Or is it discounted at pre-order price?
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We don't have pricing for post-pre-order phase, sorry! It may or may not change. Likely not drastically.
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3) For the more traditional approach, we'll provide an easy export to the industry-standard, free-to-use GEMS analysis software: GEMS - General Engine Management Systems Ltd - GEMS Data Analysis - GDA
Is the software free or included with you hardware? Their website says free with use of their hardware but I couldn't find a stand alone price.
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Also I thought you have to build your own CAN PIDs in the MS code to configure messages which would make it not a standard OBDII style layout.

MegaSquirt-II Controller Area Network

Or does the MS code send out CAN packets with the usual RPM, CLT, etc in OBDII style formats, and this document linked about just an optional feature you can develop.
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There is a free-to-use version of the GEMS software that you can download and use.

Actually, this started out when one of our users contributed a conversion script that transforms our data files into GEMS format. ( https://github.com/autosportlabs/RCP2GEMS ) We'll be incorporating this script as a 'save as' option in our software.

We don't officially endorse the the use of GEMS nor do we have a business relationship with them - just that it's a data format we support. Kind of like how OpenOffice supports saving in MS Office format.

Also worth noting that the analysis features we'll be creating will have many of the essential capabilities of the desktop software, but in a tablet / touch oriented interface and be connected to the cloud and real-time data, so you can mix/match data comparisons between your sessions, sessions from your friends, and so on. Hope that helps!
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Also I thought you have to build your own CAN PIDs in the MS code to configure messages which would make it not a standard OBDII style layout.

MegaSquirt-II Controller Area Network

Or does the MS code send out CAN packets with the usual RPM, CLT, etc in OBDII style formats, and this document linked about just an optional feature you can develop.
Whatever format MS emits on CAN we'll be able to decode and transform into virtual channels, using the appropriate mapping script. These virtual channels can be combined with the built in sensor channels, GPS, accelerometer/gyro, etc.
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Is the analysis software also scheduled to improve/improved recently? It was lack luster enough last time I looked that I would pay more money for inferior hardware that comes with better software.
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Hi Leafy, we hear you We're improving the software quite a bit - both in features and moving it to a modern, touch-oriented interface, where the data will be accessible in real-time and also for off-line analysis.

And, for the traditional software route, we'll also have an export to the GEMS format so you can do your analysis there too.
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Doesn't Rev sell a converter to make a MSIII look like a standard OBD-II ECU?
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I'd have to learn more about how MS's CAN interface works, but if it can be configured to continuously stream CAN bus messages that would be much higher performance than the OBD-II style request / reply for PIDs.

In fact, on Sunday we tapped into the instrument cluster stream for a 2006 Lotus Elise; here's a little write-up on how we did it: Pre- CAN/OBD-II Lotus elise – you CAN data! | Autosport Labs
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Doesn't Rev sell a converter to make a MSIII look like a standard OBD-II ECU?
Yep: https://www.miataturbo.net/ms-labs-m...s3-ecus-79429/

Brent Picasso: Go work with Reverant to make this Plug & Play with the MS2/MS3 and I dare say you will sell quite a few of these units.
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I'd have to learn more about how MS's CAN interface works, but if it can be configured to continuously stream CAN bus messages that would be much higher performance than the OBD-II style request / reply for PIDs.

In fact, on Sunday we tapped into the instrument cluster stream for a 2006 Lotus Elise; here's a little write-up on how we did it: Pre- CAN/OBD-II Lotus elise you CAN data! | Autosport Labs
Nice, reminds me of a LabView CAN data logger I wrote for my FSAE team using the user configurable AEM ECU CAN stream.
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