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Old 07-27-2010, 07:20 AM   #21
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Awesome how this took off.

Will be waiting for the Trackspeed radiator. Do things right the first time. Less to worry about.

Only question right now: Shrouding, the other part of what is needed. Will cxracing/mishimoto shrouds bolt up to this? Any reason not to get them? Can get a CXRacing shroud and fans for 60$ shipped, seems just as good as a Mishimoto. Again, i want to do things right, but i don't see how fans are as important, as with a good radiator, fans should be more of a pitting kind of thing, right?
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One of the nice benefits of the triple pass is that the radiator inlet is moved over, offset from the OE throttle body location, which makes reroutes MUCH easier to install.

BTW, we are doing all fitment work on cars with RB tubular bars and RB sway bar braces for a worst-case scenario.
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Will the FM Stage 2 fans bolt up to this rad?
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Ok, another question. My car will will still have some DDing, with this rad and an oil cooler, will I ever get my car up to temp?

Is this a ultra bad ***, track only type of radiator?
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This looks awesome. great work.
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Old 07-27-2010, 02:21 PM   #26
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Only question right now: Shrouding, the other part of what is needed. Will cxracing/mishimoto shrouds bolt up to this? Any reason not to get them? Can get a CXRacing shroud and fans for 60$ shipped, seems just as good as a Mishimoto. Again, i want to do things right, but i don't see how fans are as important, as with a good radiator, fans should be more of a pitting kind of thing, right?
Shrouding for the fans is not needed. The only time your fans will kick on is sitting at idle, especially if you have ducting to the radiator in front. Even without ducting you should be fine (Spec Miatas, where ducting is not legal, overheat with Koyo 37s and 55s but my car ran at about 167 this entire weekend in 105* ambient without ducting, highest on-track temperature I saw was 175*).

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Will the FM Stage 2 fans bolt up to this rad?
We have not tried, but I'm almost positive the shroud will not bolt up. You could always attach the fans alone in a different manner without the shroud which will work perfectly.

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Ok, another question. My car will will still have some DDing, with this rad and an oil cooler, will I ever get my car up to temp?

Is this a ultra bad ***, track only type of radiator?
I can't comment on your oil temps with whatever oil cooler setup you will be using, but your car will get up to whatever temp your thermostat is with this radiator. That is also assuming you have a stock cooling system (no re-route) or a re-route that is done correctly. In my Spec Miata, it took only a few minutes of idling before it was up to operating temperatures (160s).
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Ok, another question. My car will will still have some DDing, with this rad and an oil cooler, will I ever get my car up to temp?

Is this a ultra bad ***, track only type of radiator?
Well, that's what your thermostat is for ...

Assuming you have a thermostat on your oil cooler as well you should be fine.
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yeah, once these radiators become available, ill be in line to get one too.
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This is baller and definitely in my future
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Any update on due date for the Trackspeed Radiator?
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Last prototype version is being finished right now. Once we confirm fitment of it with a fan, we will start taking orders.
We will be sure to update this thread once they are available.
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so i've been shopping around for a radiator/fan setup for my miata build. im more of a low budget racer. wiould the CX racing radiator do fine for what i need? any cons against it?
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so i've been shopping around for a radiator/fan setup for my miata build. im more of a low budget racer. wiould the CX racing radiator do fine for what i need? any cons against it?
hay guyz i'm racin teh carz wat radiator i needz

Seriously. Is it a turbo car? How much horsepower does it have? What kind of racing?
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hay guyz i'm racin teh carz wat radiator i needz

Seriously. Is it a turbo car? How much horsepower does it have? What kind of racing?
its in the work right now, im building my 1.6 with a garrett t28, greddy Exhaust mani, M Tuned rods, Rock Pistons, Etc Etc.

im only looking for about 200HP max... not looking for big numbers.. more just want a street car that i can punch every now and then... not really into racing my miata...

thats what my dad's cars are for.
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For 200hp, your turbo is too big and you don't need a built engine.

So you're not doing any kind of racing. You should be fine on a stock radiator.

More to the point street car does not equal race car. Going fast on the street does not make you a "low budget racer."
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For 200hp, your turbo is too big and you don't need a built engine.

So you're not doing any kind of racing. You should be fine on a stock radiator.

More to the point street car does not equal race car. Going fast on the street does not make you a "low budget racer."
does it really matter what i have in my car or what i've done to it? i wasn't trying to build a "race car" or "street car"....

just building "my car"... doesn't matter if you agree with my build or not.. its already well on its way.

the question was:

would the cxracing radiator be suffice cooling for my build? Pros and Cons against this radiator/fan setup?

doesn't make me a low budget racer, but i'm only 19 boss... i work full time, go to school full time... so i'm more on a "budget" per say..

thanks for the input..
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does it really matter what i have in my car or what i've done to it?
Yes, it does. How can you not understand that more power = more heat?

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i wasn't trying to build a "race car" or "street car"....
You're the one who said you were a racer. Your name says "DriftProjectR" where would i have ever gotten that idea?

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just building "my car"... doesn't matter if you agree with my build or not.. its already well on its way.
You're the one here asking questions about how to setup your build, obviously it matters.

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the question was:

would the cxracing radiator be suffice cooling for my build? Pros and Cons against this radiator/fan setup?
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You don't need anything other than what you have. If you can't figure out that if what you have is good enough, so would an upgrade, i recommend taking your car to a shop.

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doesn't make me a low budget racer, but i'm only 19 boss... i work full time, go to school full time... so i'm more on a "budget" per say..
Your age has nothing to do with your ability to create accurate statements, unless you're under seven years old. Racer means you race. You used the word, and you were wrong. Get over it.
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Yes, it does. How can you not understand that more power = more heat?



You're the one who said you were a racer. Your name says "DriftProjectR" where would i have ever gotten that idea?



You're the one here asking questions about how to setup your build, obviously it matters.



The answer was:

You don't need anything other than what you have. If you can't figure out that if what you have is good enough, so would an upgrade, i recommend taking your car to a shop.



Your age has nothing to do with your ability to create accurate statements, unless you're under seven years old. Racer means you race. You used the word, and you were wrong. Get over it.
wow glad you took the time to dissect it all down.. lol..

yes i do race.. im from a family of racers..

i do not race my miata, we have other cars to do that with.

BLah Blah Blah.

thanks for your input, it was well needed, you answered all my questions...

doesn't help when your overzealous when a person makes a post.... take a deep breathe my friend...

thanks again..
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This is not your typical forum, a lot of guys here track their cars on a regular basis. Some are extremely fast, holding track records. What will work for one of them will not work for another. So, in order to get accurate information, one needs to clarify what mods are done to the car, and how it will be driven. Getting on it every now and then on the street is very different than 20+ min at 7000 RPM.

Nagase is correct, a street driven car @200whp will do fine with stock internals and probably a stock radiator with good ducting. The radiator you asked about will be fine for your goals.

My car will be a street and track car. I'm building it to handle up to 300whp, I'm not sure how high I'll go, but I wanted the headroom. All the tracks around me are in the desert. So I am considering the TSE radiator for the worst case scenario, becuase I don't want to blow up my wami new motor. If I wasn't going to track it, CXracing would be great.

Edit: It took me ten min to write this? wow. Since your from such a great lineage of great racers, I guess you won't be needing us. Later
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its in the work right now, im building my 1.6 with a garrett t28, greddy Exhaust mani, M Tuned rods, Rock Pistons, Etc Etc.

im only looking for about 200HP max... not looking for big numbers.. more just want a street car that i can punch every now and then... not really into racing my miata...

thats what my dad's cars are for.
Hey there, welcome to our little clubhouse. We are ********, but more importantly know what we are talking about. Your question will be answered many times, very rudely I might ad, because we want you to have to ask it once and only once. Ask it again and your avatar is likely to become a very nasty picture of a man genitals after spending months in a chinese clap trap house.

Okay so I just did a search(obviously you didn't), you have not made a intro thread. We take this very seriously here. Please make a intro thread, that way we can know what your car is(year, model, mods, etc..) and what your intentions are with it. Also with this information we can see if any one on this forum is local, that way you can get some hands one help from a veteran miata turbo master(if they want to put up with a drifterRRRRRRRRR!!!!)

Just like the all powerful Nagase said before, for your power goals a stock radiator with a little ducting will be more than substantial. Built motor and a gt28 for a 200hp street car??? Nugga please. Do yourself a favor and spend your money in other places that might need attention.

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