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Old 05-23-2012, 11:39 AM
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Jesus ----, stop posting.
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Originally Posted by Boost Joose
Vlad, I didnt create this thread or any thread to brag....just throwing out ideas and seeing what has been done/proven and what hasn't.

I have tracked many things, carts(when I was younger), Honda's, Nissans, bikes a vette I had for a while, and a t25 miata I used to have. Currently I have a 05 RSX-S modded(daily, for sale/trade), 350z Track, and 2 miata's The one I'm building up and my screw around town sr20(gt2871) miata(350 whp) and the ducati 748. Going this week to hopefully trade by RSX for a Stage 3 B5 S4, a little more suitable daily.

Anyway, lets not focus on if I can handle it, why not just encourage me to do it?? You wouldn't like to see me build a car I cant handle??
lol @ being the flat-out guy. Also, lol @ a B5 S4 with K04's being a "suitable daily". It's a great car when it's not on a tow truck.
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Originally Posted by Boost Joose
booring pictures
more pics of engine bays. unimpressed so far.
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Originally Posted by Boost Joose
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All I could get to this morning before work. The car in question and bike are at 2 different shops.

Ok, can we get this thread back on topic, and off me?

Since Sierra Sierra and many other time attack teams are using a "smaller tire" than they're capable of this leads me to think there is some truth to having too much tire. But then again I saw this imprezza set the Road Atlanta time attack record there on 305 18's 2 weekends ago....
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  1. Oh ----, it's Jay Leno!!!
  2. Don't compare much of anything you want to do to the AWD, super-aero, Sierra Sierra Evo.
  3. Seriously, we are tired of reading your ---- yet we have a duty to help save you money and keep others from reading your ----.
  4. I like how you keep correcting Savington.
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Originally Posted by hustler
  1. Oh ----, it's Jay Leno!!!
  2. Don't compare much of anything you want to do to the AWD, super-aero, Sierra Sierra Evo.
  3. Seriously, we are tired of reading your ---- yet we have a duty to help save you money and keep others from reading your ----.
  4. I like how you keep correcting Savington.
Trey, believe me, I don't need any advise, opinions, or $hit from you so please do not respond to anything I say(for the 10000th time) as everything that comes from the tips of your fingers is a waste of space used on the internet.

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Old 05-24-2012, 09:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Boost Joose
Trey, believe me, I don't need any advise, opinions, or $hit from you so please do not respond to anything I say(for the 10000th time) as everything that comes from the tips of your fingers is a waste of space used on the internet.

kthx
You're lack of respect for me is part of your problem. See, I've been tracking a 250whp Miata for the last three years. You could probably learn something from my experience. However, you're totally unlikable and will die a virgin, hence why I won't grovel to your signature of bullshit hopes and dreams about a car that will never hit those numbers on a real dyno and will never be tracked reliably.

Let us know when you've done something rather than talk about it. People like you are a cancer on the forum, you run-off the people who've done the work, spent the money, and have the experience to share. Savington answered your question a few pages ago, but you disagreed with him and kept yapping. There are a select few people here who keep this forum going and provide information you can't get anywhere else, so try to be a little more respectful to them. Some of us who spent an extra $10k in mistakes so people like you get to keep your money deserve a little more respect.

A few years ago we would have banned someone like you because you have provided nothing to this forum, your prop-rating clearly indicates this.
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You're lack of respect for me is part of your problem. .
Let me get you a fuking tissue.

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See, I've been sucking ---- in a Miata for the last three years. You could probably learn something from my experience. However, you're totally unlikable and will die a butt virgin, hence why I won't grovel to your signature of bullshit hopes and dreams about a car that will never hit those numbers on a real dyno and will never be tracked reliably.

Haha really? I started to build up a Miata from scratch in December and I throw out some arbitrary ideas and you think I'll have a POS for some reason. Let me guess you had your t25 miata togaether in a week? Right Be patient

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A few years ago we would have banned someone like you because you have provided nothing to this forum, your prop-rating clearly indicates this.
Prop rating = High School popularity contest = Not on my priority list(obviously)
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Originally Posted by Boost Joose
Let me guess you had your t25 miata togaether in a week? Right Be patient
No, it was a long road to get it where it is today and it required some innovation and the ABSURDflow savior.
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I prefer "floozy".
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Originally Posted by Boost Joose
Bbundy, do you have any idea on how much a 16x12 or 16x11 rim would be from the companies you listed above? I like the CCW Classic 4 design and I have a friend with a vette with CCW's he races with and they are light and great quality. They price them at $625 a piece for the 16's and that's pretty steep but I know you get what you pay for. I was just curious if you had any personal experience or knew anyone that dealt with the companies you listed on qulity and pricing.

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The Cheap ones I have considered were Spinwerks which I think run about $310 each. A friend has Real which I think were even cheaper maybe 250 each. I think they weigh between 15 and 16 lbs. Bogart is probably even cheaper than CCW but still expensive.

If you’re worried about those costs then you have no business building a 400 hp track car Miata. to do a 400hp track car Miata well and you’re not thinking you’re going to dump 20 to 30k or more into the build then you’re not doing it right. You might be able to build a 400 hp Miata that you can take to the track for less but it will be a slow POS that breaks down all the time.

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Originally Posted by bbundy
If you’re worried about those costs then you have no business building a 400 hp track car Miata. to do a 400hp track car Miata well and you’re not thinking you’re going to dump 20 to 30k or more into the build then you’re not doing it right. You might be able to build a 400 hp Miata that you can take to the track for less but it will be a slow POS that breaks down all the time.

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Ha, sucks to think about it but there will easily be 30k in this thing. Over 9k just in suspension and bracing, 2k brakes, 12k+ engine/turbo setup, 3k+ AEM/Racepake/misc electronics, 6-8k wheels and tires, 3k+ seats and harnesses, much more to go and that's 32-35 right there
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If you think you're only spending 12k on a 400whp track turbo drivetrain, you have another thing coming.

Based on your numbers, you're looking at a $50-60k build, so we'd all appreciate it if you would just stop whining about the cost.
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Originally Posted by Savington
If you think you're only spending 12k on a 400whp track turbo drivetrain, you have another thing coming.
My 250whp car is on the limit of mechanical thrifty-ness. I don't know how you guys afford the drivetrain and wear item service intervals of 250whp+. At my output level and brakes, I still think it costs about the same as an NA powered Miata to race...it just goes a lot faster. My racecar is a ship that will never come in, but will definitely be about fuel economy, lightness, and cost. PTD Miata is looking a lot more attractive than anything else these days when you consider fuel and tire costs.
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I formally decry Joose; he shall be Boost from the site.
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I formally decry Joose; he shall be Boost from the site.
Praise Jehova. He was too annoying for this place.
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Do you guys think the ebay tubro kit will last 3 years of track events? Also, no one seems to run the 275 Nitto NT-555 tire, I think I'm going to try it. They're only $169/tire too!

I'm thinking about a rear-mount tubro once I'm done with the ebay kit, going with a smaller tubro so it won't lag as much with the extra long cooler-pipes I'll have to run.

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Originally Posted by hustler
My 250whp car is on the limit of mechanical thrifty-ness. I don't know how you guys afford the drivetrain and wear item service intervals of 250whp+. At my output level and brakes, I still think it costs about the same as an NA powered Miata to race...it just goes a lot faster.
This is an interesting point. It would be a great sticky if we could build a list of what parts you can expect to need and what you will have to consider wear items on a track car at various power levels.
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Originally Posted by hustler
PTD Miata is looking a lot more attractive than anything else these days when you consider fuel and tire costs.
PTE is where all the competition is.
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Originally Posted by Savington
PTE is where all the competition is.
Whatever, I'm about a decade away from buying a tow rig these days anyway. It will probably never happen.
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