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Here's my setup, tows like a champ, you hardly know it is there:

http://sites.google.com/site/timkent...27-tow-rig.jpg

In Australia these cars are rated for 1,800kg (~4,000lbs).

2.5L? Never knew it was capable. You've got me thinking now...

Is that an aluminum trailer?

This won't fly in America. Here we believe you need a Peterbilt to pull a utility trailer. Police stop my frequently because they think my car is overloaded with the tire trailer.

Truth to that. Only used my trailer 2 times and was pulled over both times with it. Asking if I know what my tow limit is, and if I weight the trailer. Of course "yes sir, it's XXXX" and I was on my way. PIA though...

THIS

Europe:
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USA:
http://www.curtrich.com/eot06fifthwheel_L62.jpg

And if I have to sleep in it, I prefer the latter but for towing a Miata it's just bull shit. A f** brake controller? Yes, if your tow vehicle uses CD-ROMs as part of it's disk brake setup.

Are you saying you shouldn't have a brake controller while towing 3k+ lbs?

I just started pulling my Miata on a 16' open deck steel trailer with a `98 F150 4.6L. A bit rough going up hills but other than that you have no idea you're towing. A few semis blew past me on 2 lane roads w/ >100mpg closing speeds and I didn't even notice.

Euro towing.mov
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mfLnLwFcSBc

Only the 3rd time showing that clip in this thread, LOL.

Towing with my "new" Super Duty this weekend was fantastic. Truck was big, stable, comfortable, and quiet. It's little 5.4 gas V8 would snatch the trailer around without problem, even at 75 mph on the highway.

Van van van must buy a van van van.

I lol'd at this part

Anyone looking for an awesome tow rig should try and find a '94-03 or so diesel econoline.
It's a good thing they never break, because they're impossible to work on, but aside from that they're great trucks. 7.3's are good on gas, ridiculously powerful, and with a van you can store all your tools/tires/other bullshit and still have room to sleep if you wanna go camping for the weekend. Or buy a pickup if you don't care about enclosed cargo space and like helping people move all the time.

I have a '99 F250 superduty with 350,000 miles. It's never let me down once and even with my 24' enclosed trailer w/ car, camping gear, toolbox, etc in it it's faster than my miata is downhill at full throttle. I get about 15MPG pulling my giant trailer, about 19-20 mpg pulling a normal/small car trailer with a normal car on it, and 22-23 mpg empty. Oh, and my trailer brakes didn't work at all on that trailer until last month, and I had no idea. F250 brakes kick ASS.


here's a picture of the whole setup:
http://realtimeperformance.ca/images...r/IMAG0129.jpg

It's mostly for my skyline but the miata is going to find it's way in there now and then I'm sure. Don't buy an enclosed trailer if you mainly plan on using it for not going to the track, because they're really shitty at doing some things that open trailers are good at. But, on a race weekend when it's raining sideways and you are inside the trailer working on the car/watching TV/whatever it's pretty nice.


If you don't need/want/whatever a serious truck, you can tow 3000lbs with just about anything in the flat lands. Most full/mid size cars will tow things well, same goes with SUV's, and even minivans. Important for anything with an auto is a good transmission cooler. Decent brake pads (ie ceramics or upgraded ones) and working trailer brakes are nice to have too.

is that a diesel ?

That's badass. I can't begin to describe how badly I don't want a fucking truck.

I think I NEED a 40' gooseneck enclosed, that way I feel like I am using my truck for what it is designed for lol. Right now my 24' open hauls two miatas just fine. I love my 6.7L powerstroke so much more than the 6.4L it replaced. That thing was a damned terd.

I have known a couple people to tow aluminum trailers with forrester type cars and have never had an issue. You have to pay attention a little more, but they work well.

Hand-calculated? How fast do you normally drive?

Nah just the 2.5L turbo petrol, auto transmission with an extra cooler fitted and the Tekonsha Prodigy P3.

Yeah this saves us from having to buy a dedicated tow rig. It's my wife's daily so it just takes a break from carting her and the kids around. :cool:

http://www.expeditionportal.com/foru...Van-4X4-custom!

Awesome. A couple ice cream van stickers and we're in business.

usually 60-65. I do the math after every fill up, it's just habit.

my "23 mpg empty" means not towing just to clarify.

That sounds crazy high.