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Old Aug 12, 2009 | 10:33 AM
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hi guys,

after reading the threads iv decided ot go for a greddy bolt on kit. i want to purchase it soon, iv found a few places to go but on the net but i woundered if you guys could point me in the direction of the best deal.
the best i found is at a site called raceinspired, for a bolt of greddy kit for $1409 delivered. i also am thinking on going for a emanage piggy back ecu, but im still unsure of how and what it does and weather i realy need it or do i need a stand alone, ie megasquirt? oh also some advie on an intercooler kit. im going for the lot but my budget is $2000 so the greddy is the cheepest route for me.

any advice on any of the above i would greatly appreciate as i have cash waiting and with your help hope to order this week.

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https://www.miataturbo.net/forum/t4288/
Bell Experimental Group - BEGi
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Coming from a Greddy owner, take my word for it- the Greddy kit is junk. The turbo itself is a decent unit, but the rest of the supporting hardware is poo and kangaroos.

The Bell Shanghai-S is $1,405 delivered. Granted, it's a Chinese turbo, but they've been having good luck with 'em. And what's more, the manifold and FPR that this one comes with are top-notch, and you've got a good future upgrade path.

Man, who'd have ever thought that a Bell kit would cost less than a Greddy? I'm waiting for the Hudson River to turn to blood here...
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Better hurry and order from BEGi, Prices are going up. BEGi - - Front Page News - price_increase
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+1 on the Begi's entry level set ups .... Stay away from the Greddy
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Better hurry and order from BEGi, Prices are going up. BEGi - - Front Page News - price_increase
saw that

I've been playing with configurations on their site all week. Trying to decide between a stripper S Series or the S1 with the extra goodies.
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thanks for the advice guys, what do you recomend for ecu? or piggyback? is it worth buying an intercooler? it would have to be a cheep one but is it worth it? let me know thanks
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also they give the option to go for a gt2871 turbo, whats the difference what do i get for my extra $200 is it worth it?
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thanks for the advice guys, what do you recomend for ecu? or piggyback? is it worth buying an intercooler? it would have to be a cheep one but is it worth it? let me know thanks
Intercooler worth it?? HELL YEAH!!! ebay intercoolers are very popular and reliable. ECU?? for the likes theres the tastes but since you're on budget I see a MS in your future. BTW have you read anything about what youre about to jump into??
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i read a few threads about it. making it very clear to make sure you have taken into consideration the fueling which is my main concirn. if i buy the begi shanghi kit which i may order tomorrow, get an ebay intercooler kit and a piggy back ecu i think to my knollage im covered but thats why im asking on here. its been a plan for a a long time but i want ot do it right. is it worth buying a piggy back system like the emanage as well?
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The e-manage blue is not so good and for the money best to just get a MS. People here are selling MS all the time and there is a thread on how to build them for each year miata. If you go with a Begi kit i think they give you a fpr so you should be fine for low boost. Then later down the road you can go stand alone with the MS PNP or just a MS1. Also if you have a 1.6l miata you have no need for a gt2871r that turbo its good for 250-300whp on your miata you would need a built motor.The best bet for turbo size on your car would be a gt2560r great turbo good spool and good power people here love them.
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mt.net approved and acceptable fueling/timing devices:
  1. Megasquirt
  2. Adaptronic
  3. AEM
  4. FMU/Bipes Combo
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Originally Posted by Viper
i read a few threads about it. making it very clear to make sure you have taken into consideration the fueling which is my main concirn. if i buy the begi shanghi kit which i may order tomorrow, get an ebay intercooler kit and a piggy back ecu i think to my knollage im covered but thats why im asking on here. its been a plan for a a long time but i want ot do it right. is it worth buying a piggy back system like the emanage as well?
is it worth is it worth it ot do it ot ur knollage?

Is it worth it to use the shift key if you want people to take the time to help you?
Old Aug 12, 2009 | 01:51 PM
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Thanks so much for all the help, iv soken to bell and will be ordering my kit hopefully tomorrow.
Unfortunatly i cant afford an ecu at present so i think ill leave it for now and just go for a MS down the line and like yo usay possibly build one up for my miata.
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Did you take a look at this??

https://www.miataturbo.net/forum/t14598/

take it that you have 2000 and if you eliminate the afpr from your cart then it you should have enough for a MS..... just my .02 I just dont see it necesary to get the afpr if youre gonna upgrade anyway.
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Did you take a look at this??

https://www.miataturbo.net/forum/t14598/

take it that you have 2000 and if you eliminate the afpr from your cart then it you should have enough for a MS..... just my .02 I just dont see it necesary to get the afpr if youre gonna upgrade anyway.
yeah i saw this the other day. I think for know im going to just go for the begi kit and maybe a cheep intercooler kit, then eventually go for a MS.

This is probably a silly question but if i also put an inter cooler on will i need the ecu as well or can i still have the inter cooler with the begi kit running at 5-6psi?
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Intercooler kit just keeps you intake temp cold. If anything its going to help you by lowering your chance from knock and not having to retard your timing as much.



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