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Old Aug 6, 2012 | 11:38 PM
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Question Why no more power???

Like the title says, my car has recently developed a power problem. I drive a 1999 miata with an MP62 supercharger (please don't hate, I bought the car like that).

Here is my problem: A week ago I went shopping and when I came back and started the car, a new rattle started. It sounded like rocks in the exhaust. Then, after the engine was hot, I tried a WOT pull and i noticed it lacked power considerably and I could hear what sounded like a boost leak... when I arrived at my house, the rattle had disappear but the engine still lacked a lot of power.

Since then I've checked all vacuums for leaks, I took off the s/c and it was in perfect condition as was the bypass valve, checked the timing, the engine compression, took off the intake manifold to make sure there really was no vacuum leak and checked the piggyback, still for leaks. I have just taken my exhaust off to see if my catalytic converter was broken but I can only see the intake side of it and it is not clogged and the exhaust doesn't rattle when I gently hit it with a rubber mallet.

Tomorrow i'll try to run it straight pipe after the down pipe to make sure that the catalytic converter is not clogged.

Does anyone have a clue what i could be? Cause I don't....
Any help would be very very appreciated!
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Old Aug 7, 2012 | 12:37 AM
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nhot great if true but rattle of rocks sound could be serious detonation problem.....
Old Aug 7, 2012 | 12:41 AM
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What AFR does it run at at full throttle?
Old Aug 7, 2012 | 01:14 AM
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2 questions, whats the boost gauge say and what does the AFR gauge say during boost?

If you cant answer those 2 questions, then FIX those 2 issues and then worry about your wot power.
Old Aug 7, 2012 | 07:50 AM
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What was the compression and did you do a leak down test?
Old Aug 7, 2012 | 08:15 AM
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Compression on hot engine was 1-200 2-200 3-200 4-201
Don't have a boost gauge...
Don't have AFR gauge...
Didn't do a leak test...

But I do have OBD2 and on such detonation levels I am pretty shure a CEL would have appered. I also heard the rattle at idle and now that it has disappeared the engine has the same power issues.
Old Aug 7, 2012 | 08:17 AM
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Wait, how is this tuned...
Old Aug 7, 2012 | 08:37 AM
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Originally Posted by David603
Compression on hot engine was 1-200 2-200 3-200 4-201
Don't have a boost gauge...
Don't have AFR gauge...
Didn't do a leak test...

But I do have OBD2 and on such detonation levels I am pretty shure a CEL would have appered. I also heard the rattle at idle and now that it has disappeared the engine has the same power issues.
Buy a wideband O2 sensor and gauge before you drive the car again. There is absolutely no excuse for you not to have one. I am guessing you are going lean and detonating.
Old Aug 7, 2012 | 08:41 AM
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Guys,

I have a car. It has problems. I don't want to do anything to monitor its vitals, I just know that recently it started making a noise.

Please help me.

Thanks
Old Aug 7, 2012 | 09:10 AM
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Originally Posted by mx5-kiwi
nhot great if true but rattle of rocks sound could be serious detonation problem.....
or when the SC goes...
Old Aug 7, 2012 | 02:18 PM
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Originally Posted by David603
But I do have OBD2 and on such detonation levels I am pretty shure a CEL would have appered. I also heard the rattle at idle and now that it has disappeared the engine has the same power issues.
Well the stock computer has no idea what the hell boost is nor does it know what to do with the timing at all. Don't be so shure that it would toss a cell especially since you're running tons of bandaids to confuse the sensors in the first place. While i was tunning my turbo with the xede before i finally got the ***** to go standalone i heard it ping because of lean more than once and it never popped a cell. Speaking of lean it has no clue how much fuel to add...worst yet the narrow band will not show what afr you're running. Hell you could be at 13.5 afr at 8 or 10 psi, 22 some degrees of spark and the stock computer dont give a ---- and since you have no gauges you have no clue either.
Old Aug 7, 2012 | 02:20 PM
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Guise!

Car!!!

HALP!!!!
Old Aug 7, 2012 | 02:54 PM
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Does the car have a cat converter on it?
nvm it does
Take it off and test if you have a straight pipe or with it off
Old Aug 7, 2012 | 05:13 PM
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The DET sensor will pick up on the knock and ping. It will tell the computer to change your timming around. Becareful, this will cause you to be late everywhere you go.
Old Aug 7, 2012 | 09:19 PM
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welcome to miataturbo bro! it's like totally sweet. Don't worry bro we drive *** cars it's supposed to not have any power bro.
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Old Aug 7, 2012 | 10:05 PM
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I bet the cat is clogged, most of the time if the cat is clogged it will turn cherry red ofter a good drive. Take it around the block (around a big block) and take a look under the car.
Old Aug 7, 2012 | 10:26 PM
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Another way to test is put your hand at the tail pipe and check for exhaust flow.
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Old Aug 7, 2012 | 10:36 PM
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/\ Listen to this guy. He's a professional. If you can't feel it with your hand, stick your ***** in there
Old Aug 7, 2012 | 10:49 PM
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Now only if you can do that while going 30-50 mph at wot.
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