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Old Oct 26, 2012 | 04:16 PM
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Hydra vs Boost Gauge

which one is accurate? lol My boost going up shows the same however the gauge doesnt drop off at the upper rpms the 1 to 1.5psi the hydra shows.
Old Oct 26, 2012 | 04:42 PM
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Boost leak somewhere? start checking connections.
Old Nov 2, 2012 | 09:27 PM
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Mines always had a 1 psi offset from the gauge at 12 psi.

I've always assumed the gauge was out a bit.

Does it matter?
Old Dec 15, 2012 | 09:24 PM
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gauge can be off and also

gauge is relative pressure

hydra is absolute pressure
Old Dec 15, 2012 | 09:25 PM
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And. the length of the boost signal line matters. And same with if the gauge line or gauge has a restrictor.
Old Dec 15, 2012 | 10:59 PM
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Welcome back Fae

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Old Dec 15, 2012 | 11:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Faeflora
gauge can be off and also

gauge is relative pressure

hydra is absolute pressure
Difference in psi between psi and psig is 14.7, not 1-1.5

Originally Posted by Faeflora
And. the length of the boost signal line matters.
Wrong, not over the timescale we're talking about here.
Old Dec 16, 2012 | 12:06 AM
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Originally Posted by albumleaf
Difference in psi between psi and psig is 14.7, not 1-1.5


Wrong, not over the timescale we're talking about here.
No, I am ******* right about the damn boost gauge line and the gauge vs. hydra.

Line affects responsiveness pretty significantly. This is especially important for your MAP sensor.

Now go suck your **** fuckface.
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Old Dec 16, 2012 | 12:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Faeflora
No, I am ******* right about the damn boost gauge line and the gauge vs. hydra.

Line affects responsiveness pretty significantly. This is especially important for your MAP sensor.

Now go suck your **** fuckface.
Yeah, definitely on the order of a couple seconds . Pressure is pressure or he has a slight leak on the line. You'd think after being wrong so many times you'd keep your mouth shut.
Old Dec 17, 2012 | 02:39 AM
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The pressure displayed by the Hydra would be accurate if you were at sea level. It is absolute/ converted from kpa like Fae said.
Old Dec 17, 2012 | 03:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Aricjm15
The pressure displayed by the Hydra would be accurate if you were at sea level. It is absolute/ converted from kpa like Fae said.
You don't work at UCC do you?

Like I said though, the difference between relative and absolute pressure is an order of magnitude more than the difference he's seeing, something else is the issue.
Old Dec 17, 2012 | 04:07 PM
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No it reads in absolute. And displays in gauge pressure. The difference is because it does not compensate for altitude. If you owned and used a hydra you would probably understand.
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The difference of absolute vs relative pressure would be seen at idle or even when the car is off. In other words the difference would be there at all times.

Now the OP says his hydra reading drops down while the boost gauge stays stationary and that happens only at the upper rpms, it sounds more like theres a leak somewhere on the boost line going to the hydra.
Old Dec 17, 2012 | 04:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Aricjm15
No it reads in absolute. And displays in gauge pressure. The difference is because it does not compensate for altitude. If you owned and used a hydra you would probably understand.
I know what a pressure reading is. If I see 5psi on my boost gauge I know that's reading 135kPA in my DIYPNP.

Fagflora thinks that somehow the 1-1.5psi difference is coming from the difference in absolute vs relative, when that's simply not the case. Neither the boost gauge nor the MAP sensor in the Hydra compensate for altitude, I'm not sure why you mentioned it.
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Originally Posted by albumleaf
Neither the boost gauge nor the MAP sensor in the Hydra compensate for altitude, I'm not sure why you mentioned it.
Actually the hydra is reading absolute pressure. It does not compensate for altitude HOWEVER the boost gauge is reading relative pressure. That relative pressure measures the pressure inside the pipe against the pressure it sees outside. The hydra on the other hand uses a standard calibration so unless you calibrate it your self at your current altitude you are using absolute pressure configuration at 0 altitude therefore your altitude will influence the readings.
Old Dec 18, 2012 | 01:49 PM
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Originally Posted by albumleaf
Fagflora thinks that somehow the 1-1.5psi difference is coming from the difference in absolute vs relative, when that's simply not the case. Neither the boost gauge nor the MAP sensor in the Hydra compensate for altitude, I'm not sure why you mentioned it.
No I don't fuckign think that. I know the differential is just up top.

I still say it can be the damn boost signal lines. If you want to argue with me about it then you haven't fucked around with tuning boost enough.
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