Supercharger Discussion For all you misguided souls.

FFS 1.6 actually a success

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 04-01-2008, 08:31 AM
  #21  
Boost Czar
iTrader: (62)
 
Braineack's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Chantilly, VA
Posts: 79,493
Total Cats: 4,080
Default

Originally Posted by mhoward1
So any news?
hold on let me consult the Tom Excuse Generator.
Braineack is offline  
Old 04-01-2008, 01:29 PM
  #22  
Elite Member
 
spike's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: vancouver canada
Posts: 1,614
Total Cats: 0
Default

Originally Posted by Braineack
hold on let me consult the Tom Excuse Generator.
Is it like one of those magic 8 ***** that you shake and wait for a answer?

Or do you simply grab Tom by the throat and shake violently and eventually some bullshit excuse will come out.
spike is offline  
Old 04-01-2008, 01:48 PM
  #23  
Boost Czar
iTrader: (62)
 
Braineack's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Chantilly, VA
Posts: 79,493
Total Cats: 4,080
Default

I think the machine is jammed on "waiting for supplier"
Braineack is offline  
Old 04-01-2008, 02:36 PM
  #24  
Tour de Franzia
iTrader: (6)
 
hustler's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Republic of Dallas
Posts: 29,085
Total Cats: 375
Default

whoa whoa whoa, a torque converter changes air/fuel ratio? hahahahaha
hustler is offline  
Old 04-21-2008, 05:29 PM
  #25  
Newb
 
bluemoongsp's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Tennessee
Posts: 11
Total Cats: 0
Default

Originally Posted by Braineack
yes there is a very solid number in his area that have blown


just curious, but how many engines have blown with FFS coldsides?
bluemoongsp is offline  
Old 04-21-2008, 05:57 PM
  #26  
I'm Miserable!
 
MX5-4me's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Posts: 589
Total Cats: 0
Default

This would be a better question for a m.net (if they would even allow it).. there aren't too may folks here with a SC.
MX5-4me is offline  
Old 05-13-2008, 02:09 AM
  #27  
Supporting Vendor
iTrader: (3)
 
ThePass's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: San Diego
Posts: 3,303
Total Cats: 1,216
Default

I think the parasitic loss of a supercharger prevents any low boost unit from generating decent numbers. Atleast that's how it appears. Mp45, mp62, doesn't seem to matter - run under 10 psi and you just aren't making up enough for the drag. I know a couple guys personally with niiiice SC setups - one in the 250 whp range and another close to 300. But the levels of boost they are running is astronomical, and the amount of dough tied up in the car makes me weep... I think SC guys just have to admit that if they want to keep things to a budget and run low boost levels they won't be making any new waves with HP numbers. Regardless of how much technology they want to throw at it, they are using the wrong mechanical device for hp per psi...
__________________
Ryan Passey
ThePass is offline  
Old 05-13-2008, 01:36 PM
  #28  
Boost Pope
iTrader: (8)
 
Joe Perez's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Chicago. (The less-murder part.)
Posts: 33,023
Total Cats: 6,591
Default

Parasitic drag is a factor, though I don't believe it's the biggest one. Positive-displacement, external-compression superchargers simply tend to have very low thermal efficiency as compared to turbochargers. Put simply, they produce more heat. Hot air is less dense than cold air, so at any given level of boost, an inefficient blower will be moving less mass than one which is more efficient.

It's the same old argument the turbo guys get into- "10PSI from turbo X is not the same as 10 PSI from turbo Y." The reason being that at a given pressure ratio and flow rate, turbo Y is more efficient than turbo X- it's producing a cooler, denser charge.
Joe Perez is offline  
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
Frank_and_Beans
Supercharger Discussion
13
09-12-2016 08:17 PM
Trent
WTB
2
10-01-2015 12:15 PM
shooterschmidty
Engine Performance
8
09-30-2015 10:28 PM
ndragun
MEGAsquirt
0
09-20-2015 10:28 PM



Quick Reply: FFS 1.6 actually a success



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 07:17 PM.