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sixace 01-24-2011 06:38 PM

Just came up on the local board. Thought you might be interested. I have no idea about the seller though..could be a good deal esp. since that's his "asking" price. Guy has a seperate posting selling a car. May be worth a call.

http://www.dfwmiata.com/showthread.p...ercharger-2000

barrbm 01-24-2011 07:16 PM

San Jose area. Lived in W LA back when I was in school-- Santa Monica is a nice area. Hmm- is Ray's Diner still there? Good spot back in the late 80's!

Anybody have experience with Knocklite, good or bad?

b

aballoonflies 01-25-2011 02:11 PM

Barrbm so have you figured out which one to go with? I too have a NB2 and building for rotrex....

aballoonflies 01-25-2011 02:12 PM

btw i am in South SF area~locals here~

barrbm 01-25-2011 02:27 PM


Originally Posted by sixace (Post 682113)
Just came up on the local board. Thought you might be interested. I have no idea about the seller though..could be a good deal esp. since that's his "asking" price. Guy has a seperate posting selling a car. May be worth a call.

sixace-- thanks for the heads up!

chicksdigmiatas 01-25-2011 02:32 PM

I would wait for the rotrex or do a dual TB hotside. It is what it sounds since I saw you ask. You have 2 tb's 1 post and 1 pre charger and that helps the idle situation. There are millions of threads on m.net about it. Plus the hotside allows for proper intercooling to cool all that hot nasty air a roots blower makes. The ecool garbage and cold side FFS doesn't. Rotrex is the winner, simple, efficient, and able to take you where you want to go.

flier129 01-25-2011 03:10 PM


Originally Posted by fun02se (Post 681797)
FFS best 'charger kit in production -- BAR NONE! & Carb approved!

Do they pay you people to say things like this?



My vote would be rotrex as well.

chicksdigmiatas 01-25-2011 03:26 PM


Originally Posted by flier129 (Post 682449)
Do they pay you people to say things like this?



My vote would be rotrex as well.

They get free reach arounds.

barrbm 01-26-2011 03:49 PM

aballoonflies--
are you in BAMD? If so, maybe I'll meet you some day at a drive or tech day.
Good group of Bay Area Miata Drivers.

No decision-- mulling over...

MadMaita22 01-31-2011 10:28 AM

intercooler
 
I would like to see an intercooler installation that works around the rotrex oil cooler. Pics please.

Jfornachon 01-31-2011 01:26 PM

In a few weeks I will have an intercooler installed. Spent more time with Oscar this weeke. nd to dyno my car and got 166hp and 149lbs of torque. I had a knock issue that was solved by going with a colder plug. I had the original ngk 5's in there. I also have a issue with one cylinder being slightly lean most likely due to a dirty injector. I am going to send the extra set I have out to be cleaned and install them before I go back to him in a few weeks for the intercooler. Then comes higher boost to around 10psi and easily 200+hp.

Have a geat day,
Jared

MadMaita22 01-31-2011 03:54 PM

Jf
 
Jfornachon I have the KW! base kit for a few months. I would be curious how Oscar will configure the intercooler. Will it be over the radiator or around the radiator. There doesn't seem to be enough room to have the oil cooler stacked with the intercooler. Do you know how Oscar plans to set it up? Will he reprogram the SmartCard for higher boost (more fuel)? Will he remove the restrictor or put a different size one in? I though the restrictor lowers the boost therefore flatter/earlier torque (a good thing). Will the IAT sensor be moved closer to the throttle body? Thanks in advance if you can share anything.

Jfornachon 01-31-2011 04:12 PM

Madmiata what year car do you have?

As far as I know the box is is setup so at higher boost levals it will still work up to I think 8lbs. Dont quote me on that but thats how I took it from what he said.

As far as the intercooler it will hang off a bracket in front of the A/C condensor. I don't have PS or A/C any longer since the accident. So my oil cooler is just mounted to the front of the radiator. The tubes will be going down and around the radiator.

On thease kits all you have to do is enlarge the hole in the restrictor and you will gain boost. Please don't do this if you don't have proper engine management or you may blow your engine. The Iat is not threaded in to the intake so it has to stay right where it is unless you weld a bung in to the piping. Then you will have to wire in a new sensor. That will be up to you. I can't even confirm that that will work. That again is up to you.

That is all I klnow at this time.

Have a great day,
Jared

MadMaita22 02-02-2011 08:54 AM

Jf
 
Jfornachon Mine is a 2002 with PS/AC. I am most interested to see Oscar's IC setup. They have promised a IC system for a long time and I can't see how all can be stacked (with AC/PS). Once you get the IC, what will you do about the restrictor? (different engine management?). It doesn't seem just an IC is going to boost you to 8psi.

aballoonflies 02-02-2011 12:54 PM


Originally Posted by barrbm (Post 683006)
aballoonflies--
are you in BAMD? If so, maybe I'll meet you some day at a drive or tech day.
Good group of Bay Area Miata Drivers.

No decision-- mulling over...

I wasn't...but now I am after you mentioned it. ;)

aballoonflies 02-02-2011 01:14 PM


Originally Posted by Jfornachon (Post 684636)
In a few weeks I will have an intercooler installed. Spent more time with Oscar this weeke. nd to dyno my car and got 166hp and 149lbs of torque. I had a knock issue that was solved by going with a colder plug. I had the original ngk 5's in there. I also have a issue with one cylinder being slightly lean most likely due to a dirty injector. I am going to send the extra set I have out to be cleaned and install them before I go back to him in a few weeks for the intercooler. Then comes higher boost to around 10psi and easily 200+hp.

Have a geat day,
Jared

Jared is the engine stock? How will you manage to keep power level below the cracking point, by putting another insert?

Thanks!
Ken

dstn2bdoa 02-02-2011 01:15 PM

Jfornachon, when you get your car sorted. I'd like to swing buy and check out your car, and get a ride, if that's ok with you. I'm building my car with the Rotrex in mind, and would love to see an intercooled setup in person.

Jfornachon 02-02-2011 02:55 PM

All boost is controlled with the restrictor. The intercooler just allows you to run more boost till you run out of injector.

Have a great day,
Jared

Jfornachon 02-02-2011 02:59 PM


Originally Posted by dstn2bdoa (Post 685441)
Jfornachon, when you get your car sorted. I'd like to swing buy and check out your car, and get a ride, if that's ok with you. I'm building my car with the Rotrex in mind, and would love to see an intercooled setup in person.

Sure you can come check it out. You can also come join me at any NASA or speedtrial USA event. I will be at all events. How ever NASA takes priority. I have no problem doing ride alongs as long as its not in my TT class.

Have a great day,
Jared

Jfornachon 02-02-2011 09:37 PM

Ken,

My engine is stock and is my DD so I am not looking to have a ton of power. Just a little more than stock. I will have two restrictors. One for the street I am thinking about 10lbs at about 200ish. The second will be for the track and set for a specific power leval. Most likely about 180ish. i do have another egine that I am planning on either selling or just over building so that I will have a stout engine and never get close to its breaking point.

Have a gerat day,
Jared


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