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You all are getting very defensive here.

My comment was 100% directed at tool bag making an inaccurate statement.

LoL.

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Originally Posted by emilio700 (Post 1535478)

Eric,

We know you take every negative opinion of superchargers personally. Please don't. The context of this thread is wheel to wheel road racing. Superchargers, both PD and centrifugal, have proven inferior to turbos there. Besides results, and as someone else put it out, statistics and physics are not on your side in that argument.

Just to clarify, i CAN introduce tongue, now? :giggle:

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Originally Posted by TNTUBA (Post 1535479)

You all are getting very defensive here.

My comment was 100% directed at tool bag making an inaccurate statement.

LoL.

It's inaccurate only because it was presented as an absolute. In a vacuum, it's as inaccurate as your statement that you're not a huge minority in the same class. On a sliding scale, his statement is at least 90% correct. Yours is 100% wrong.

Fight misinformation with accurate information and everyone wins.

It's not inaccurate because of any other reason than because it is wrong.

The statement about me being in a "HUGE" minority in my "class" is also wrong. There are a ton of SC'ed cars in SSM nation wide as well as SC'ed cars in other classes. If you want to say "my class" is only cars that run Nationally at Nationals last year roughly 1/3rd of the drivers in the class were driving SC'ed cars.....NOT AT ALL a HUGE minority

You can continue to take the side of being wrong but the fact is, there are many more Motorsports worlds where Blowers are used (and win) other than the NHRA.

Which is what my original post was in reference to.....the post in question in every way inaccurate.

You all have a hard on for anything supercharger related to the point of defending something that is an absolute falsehood by trying to make a semantics debate to make it seem correct.

Again. YOU are getting very defensive trying to rationalize an absolute falsehood when you are apparently as misinformed as the person who made the comment originally.

This is really sophomoric bull shit.

Eric,

Seriously dude, no one really cares.

That is contra indicated by your continued responses

Guys, please.

Everyone's made their points clear.

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Originally Posted by Savington (Post 1535012)

At 160whp with basic good heat management practices (ceramic coatings, heat shields, wraps, hood vents, etc) it's totally doable indefinitely, 6/8/12/24hr races with proper prep and vetting are doable. I would take Rover and do a 4hr enduro tomorrow, for instance. If you want to be competitive, however, the issue is fuel consumption, and unless you redesign the cylinder head and add direct injection, you aren't going to get around the fact that turbos have a higher BSFC than N/A cars do.

I still maintain that 2hrs of green-flag, full-pace operation at anywhere approaching 160hp is impossible. At 125hp it might be doable on a consistent basis.

We can get 2 hours on a slightly built 156whp BP4W at 10/10ths but we burn right at 14 gallons. Our series allows 115% fuel capacity.