Whassup bitches
 

I think this is my third post. I am proud of myself. Here is my low pressure junk. Any questions please read my first post in the introduction section.

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1331085915

Btw would it be worth while to ditch the AFPR for a Powercard? I'm sorry to ask a relevant question, but this is Miataturbo.net, I'm running a supercharger (and a lame one at that) and I'm trying not to fit in.

cool username. really clean setup, id go with a megasquirt everyone else does and for good reason.

Chrome braaaaa

I see some air, you've got more work to do.

Wire tuck antonyms: see Fukalyal's bay.

lmao

fukalyall

LOL. :fawk: Original comment! I can't imagine doing a tuck although I've seen them and good ones look elemental, clean, awesome. Any reference how to links that are favorites of yours (here comes the "Search rookie" reply)

+1 on the MS

There is no way that valve cover stays clean...

I've done a ton of lurking, reading and searching on MS. I know I'd do the MSPNP setup and I don't mind screwing around with a laptop. But:

This car oviously isn't a racer (I know, what the heck am I doing in here, get over it). My concerns with MSPNP are idle quality, cold start and drivability. I don't care about emissions as the car is old enough it's emissions testing exempt.

Regarding the MS, I know you can eliminate the AFM and go to the standard GM mass air flow sensor stuck in a tube, go to larger injectors, I would add a larger pulley on the crank, an intercooler and look for 8-9 psi because this is just an M45 after all. It should be totally doable.

But concensus seems to be: MS for sure if you are a racer. MS on the street, you'd better have some skill at tuning. All the stuff I have read left me on the fence.

I can't think of a better place to ask about megasquirt than a forum full of racers, or a better place to be told to GTFO due to not using the search button, so here goes: Can MS be done on the street OK or am I just being a wimp about it? Are there any shops or privateers on the East Coast that would be able to help tune it?

You should see my wheels if you think there's no way something simple like the valve cover stays clean. I'm not going to post any pics of those because I don't want to get kicked out of here before I hit at least 10 posts

This is exactly why you SHOULD go ms. My car could not idle worth dick and would die at stoplights with my old bandaid setup. With my MS, and a few hours of ------- around with it and reading a ton, my car idles amazing. Cold starts amazing, and idle doesnt drop out at stoplights when i push in the clutch.

Also, I'm by no means a "racer". My car is DD/canyon carver.

dunno how you got that impression if you have been lurking for any length of time. the general consensus here is that if you drive your car ANYWHERE you should get on the MS bandwagon.



yes, you are a being a bitch about it.

welcome aboard :-)

I'm not hating, to each their own. I just think that would be a bitch and a half to keep clean. lol. What wheels do you have??

+1

MS is NOT just for racers. I have a MS on my DD, and when I get another miata, the first mod will be a MS. There is a steep learning curve, and I am still learning a ---- ton, but the capabilities of the MS are well worth it and for such a small price tag compared to other standalones, there's no question.

For the love of Christ, don't piss money away on bandAIDS. Buy/build/steal a MS and just do it right the first time.

I have an MS2 and 650cc injectors for sale. PM me.

Uhhmm... let me get to 10 posts of enjoyment out of this before I post them. Based on other things I've seen on here it will result in instant carnage like sticking a skinned, bloody limb into a pool of phiranas. I need to get some info out of this thread first and then get my first aid kit ready.

Shyt, I was afraid I was on the wrong path and it also looks like I'm in the right place. Thanks

PM'd

Really like the Randall intake you have. Very clean.

Thanks. Between the temp reduction of ambient air and my J&S pulling out less timing due to less knock, it showed an 8hp difference on the dynamometer hood open vs hood closed, which on the street should be the same difference between the stock filter and this setup.

The key is the PRM inline air filter (Subie crowd item) and the plastic snorkel going through the firewall to pull the cold air from in front of the windshield. The plastic snorkel in the pic is a CNC machined and plastic welded prototype as I had planned to mass produce it via Rotomolding aka same way as all the Jackson plastic items, kiddie furniture, etc.

The tooling cost was $1300 and after that the production cost was only $2.50 each. When I got done with the math it would have been a $350 kit with almost no margin and I also realized these cars are so old now few put good money into them, most do this with dryer hose, elmer's glue and a wad of squirrel fur blown in for insulation.

I never took the plunge to production but the piece is and works slick. It pulls like he!! on cold days and the crossover tube is only warm to the touch as well.

I actually purchased one of those inline filters from PRM last year to try and rig up something similar... I saw your car on miata.net a while back and it inspired me :) After I bought it I ended up just sticking with the stock intake setup on my rotrex. Not sure at what point, but I don't think it would take a whole lot before this becomes an intake restriction...

Yes you are supposed to tuck your wires so you can rape your motor with other hoses. E.g.,

Attachment 240064

Clean cowl induction setup. What sort of filter is that ?
Ditch maf and Powercard plans and go Adaptronic or MSx

The air filter/tube is from a company in Canada called PRM Racing

car looks really slow.

You are right when I did this setup PRM said the filter was good for only 250hp. A smaller PRM filter was used to make the 90 turn back to the firewall with room for the snorkel and the clutch reservior behind it. From the filter body back there's not more than 1/8" clearance in any direction.

The limit with this setup is the M45 anyway but I would hope to use the same intake with a turbo because the undiluted cold air has made such a difference.

There was another guy trying to do the same, his name was fuku2. :P

Seriously, you don't want to cheap out on engine control. You may want to lurk more on this forum.

I think I'm in the right place for what I need. I just noticed there is a good section on fueling and controls and with all the experience here I should be able to get up to speed.

You have reached 13 posts. Time to see those wheels.

+1

Yeah! Let's see those big ugly gay wheels.

sh!t. I will post something in the wheel and tire section where it may, um... draw the appropriate response. I don't want to pollute this thread with it.

EDIT few minutes later: Okay I posted them, thank you for all your help and been nice chatting with you

At any rate... the cleaning of these wheels takes a bit more effort than the valve cover, which is what started this topic. About once a year I pop them off the car, takes about 3 hours each for a polish and wax. Relatively speaking the valve cover is a piece of cake to keep clean.

Well since you've taken such good care of them. Sell them to a mexican and get another set of 6ULs. :)

I saw your intake setup on m.net a while back and we PM'd a couple times about it. Looks clean and its probably pretty functional. I called the folks at PRM and tried to get some straight answers from them about the filter material, longevity, pricing and dimensions of their units and they were like a bunch of sad, lost children. Not sure how they expect to stay in business when they don't have a list of available physical sizes? How hard is it to have a list of part numbers with dimensions on your website? :facepalm: It may work fine but without details its a $200 plastic tube with a cone filter of dubious origin in it, I'll pass, thanks.

I'm stealing/duplicating the intake Hornetball built for his Greddy: https://www.miataturbo.net/showpost....8&postcount=55
At least I know it'll meet my goals and I can get a replacement filter from K&N.

Don't get me wrong, I do like your build, its excessively clean. I sold a JRSC MP45 to partially fund my Rotrex, still trying to figure out if I came out ahead :loser:

That approach is a keeper - looks much more doable than what I came up with. Filter is a plus and the underhood tubing routing would not be such a problem. It was a challenge to get mine to fit under the hood.

The PRM folks are a bit odd especially considering the "envelope" is what sells the product and they don't make it easy to know what that is. I spent some time on the phone with them. I'm not sure if they are worried about somebody copying their design straight up or what (aka 6UL and that other company). Speaking of that I should probably pick up a spare unit for the long haul. Mine is already about 10 years old

fukalyal cause I got a supercharger. The engine bay looks beautiful