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Old 07-31-2008, 05:03 PM   #1
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Recently dropped all the suspension on my 91, to replace ALL the stock bushes with Poly,s.
Now after doing this-took the car down to a specialist shop to get the alignment done, now had 1/2 tank of fuel and the drivers seat ballasted.
Even with the alignment bolt/cams fully adjusted i cant get the rear camber less than -4.6deg??, - i was aiming for -1.75 /-2 deg

Anyone any ideas, my ride height isnt excessively low either 12 1/4" at front, 12 5/8" at rear
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camber kit? I dunno
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Maybe you installed the bushings incorrectly? 12.25 front isn't much of a drop at all.
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That just don't sound right, something is off there.
Did you get offset bushings?
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oh i,m sure the bushings have been installed correctly, they were marked up where they went.
i guess i could buy a set of the FM adjustable bushes- i just wanted to now why the camber is currently so far out.
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Strange that the camber is equally "out" on both sides, i remember the wishbones were tight to refit into the subframe mounting points- but i would have expected that with brand new bushes.
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Do you have pictures? Nearly -5* should be visually obvious, just over half that on my car is.

That sounds like a lot, like broken a lot. I wonder if a second alignment at another shop would be a good idea. Could be their alignment guy isn't doing something correctly.
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I,m pretty sure nothing is broken, but meanwhile i,m sourcing a magnetic camber guage to double check the shops figs.
could post up some pics tomorrow.
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need new fancy-dancy upper control arms.
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Something is bent.
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Think ive got to the bottom off this- i tightened all the wishbone fixing points/bolts whilst it was up on the jacks.
Been suggested on another thread that i probably preloaded the suspenion and that i need to get it back up on the jack,slacken the bolts/fixtures and raise the the wheel back up to ride height and then re-tighten all the bolts.

I know nothing is bent
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Front nearside adjustment bolt is maxed out

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There is still some adjustment on the bolts for the offside wishbones
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Not the best pic to show the angle, but you know i,m beginning to doubt the accuracy/calibration of the garages alighnment equipment.
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Theres no way n hell that can be -4.6*. Take it somewhere else.
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I'm at -2.7* looks much more than that!





I do know if you are too low your situation can happen. I believe there are upper control arms to give you more angle to get less camber. But you don't look too low or too negative.
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Another vote for a different shop. I've had some very bad experiences with alignment shops. For something that should be so common and simple, people really seem to screw it up. If there's a local car community or some autocross guys nearby try to talk to them and see where they go. I agree w/ the guys above, if you've got that much camber it'd be very obvious.
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Well my tape measure, calculator and spirit level tells me its -1.7 deg, which is more like it.

Now wheres the phone number of that shop
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Definately look around for another shop....that is far from -4.6. I am at -2.5 as well and have people all the time telling me something is wrong with my car. The rim doesn't sit straight. I then have to go into the whole scientology of camber for them.....
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Well my tape measure, calculator and spirit level tells me its -1.7 deg, which is more like it.

Now wheres the phone number of that shop
That's actually an ideal setting for the street.
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Sure i,m ok about the setting , but its been a pain in the *** to find out-when the garage should have been getting it right from the start.
Dont gemme wrong - car drives fine, i just needed to know what my cambers were.
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I'm with ya there, especially with the monies involved with a good alignment.
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