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Old 09-11-2017, 08:40 AM
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Default ACT 4 Puck to less pucks conversion

I got myself a used 4 puck for cheap, and I'm not sure if I want to run the 4 puck. I've heard that they engage in a binary manner, and mine looks to be fairly worn.
My question is, can I swap in a new friction disk? Like a 6 puck, or even a normal full disk.
I can get a friction disk for sub 200$, versus a full ACT setup is 300+.
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Are you using this as a street car? I drove a sprung 6 puck and hated life. Completely cozy on the FM 2 organic.
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Yes you can put a full face disc in there. Consider having the pressure plate cleaned up/surfaced.
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Originally Posted by psyber_0ptix View Post
Are you using this as a street car? I drove a sprung 6 puck and hated life. Completely cozy on the FM 2 organic.
Leg day is all day everyday for me.
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Originally Posted by concealer404 View Post
Yes you can put a full face disc in there. Consider having the pressure plate cleaned up/surfaced.
Outstanding, thanks for the answer!
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Also: 1.6 4 puck unsprung user checking in. Drives like a dream.
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Originally Posted by ByteVenom View Post
Leg day is all day everyday for me.
it's not about the effort, it's about the engagement.
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go full dick.
Full disk? Lol
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it's not about the effort, it's about the engagement.
I wasn't being serious.
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Originally Posted by psyber_0ptix View Post
Are you using this as a street car? I drove a sprung 6 puck and hated life. Completely cozy on the FM 2 organic.
Full-disk FTW. I had to put in a "spare" 4-puck because I blew up my full disc plate and now my life sucks. Engagement is terrible and it's coming out the next time I drop the trans. Save yourself the horror.
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Originally Posted by ByteVenom View Post
Full disk? Lol
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Originally Posted by ByteVenom View Post
Leg day is all day everyday for me.
This is remarkably irrelevant. I say you should run the unsrpung puck, but that recommendation might be based on spite.
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Ya'all is pansies. 10/10 would DD my 4 puck unsprung. If you're capable of learning where an engagement point is, then you can drive it. Easy pedal, no chatter, just creamy fast response.
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y'all drive cars? pansies.
I ride a wild boar to work like a man.
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I'm not masculine for doing it. It really IS that easy. My wife doesn't even complain about it.
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I found an ACT full "dick" friction disk for a similar price to the 4 puck. I'll keep the 4 puck around, just in case I decide to go for teh lolz. My main question in this thread was if I could run a different kind of friction disk with the ACT PP that came with the 4 puck. Any recommendations for a Throwout bearing? The Goodwin racing one doesn't list a brand: Miata Clutch Throwout Bearing 90-05 for Miata

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I'd run an ACT disk just to keep things simple. The FM "HD" throwout bearing seems to be the darling.
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^just a warning, there have been some failures of the flyin miata hd bearing. I've had two fail on my car in 8,000 miles, and I've spoken to two others who had one fail under 10,000 miles. 18psi installed one of my tobs, so it's not install error.

I daily the 949 ceramic pucked clutch, and I hate it. If it didnt make noise, i wouldn't mind the hard/fast/tire chirping engagement, but having a loud squeeeeeeaaaawk every normal take off is really annoying and embarrassing.

I'm switching to the organic full disk when I swap transmissions.
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Originally Posted by thumpetto007 View Post
^just a warning, there have been some failures of the flyin miata hd bearing. I've had two fail on my car in 8,000 miles, and I've spoken to two others who had one fail under 10,000 miles. 18psi installed one of my tobs, so it's not install error.

I daily the 949 ceramic pucked clutch, and I hate it. If it didnt make noise, i wouldn't mind the hard/fast/tire chirping engagement, but having a loud squeeeeeeaaaawk every normal take off is really annoying and embarrassing.

I'm switching to the organic full disk when I swap transmissions.
Hrm.

So the TOB that we buy to avoid premature failure... has been prematurely failing? Guess i'll keep the ACT-supplied one in the car.

Oh right. The squeek. I have that if i hit at a certain rpm/engagement speed from a dead stop. I tend to not notice it. The rest of the car is pretty aggro. But yes, my wife might get annoyed by that in a street car.
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Ever since FM started using cheap Chinese crap as much as possible because they're trying to squeeze every single penny out of everything they do, all their stuff is extremely hit/miss now.
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