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Old 08-31-2015, 05:50 PM   #21
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So after having to replace the master and slave, I just got the clutch bled.

My wife was the only one around, I got under the car and bled while she pumped. As soon as I saw the fork start to move, I asked if its too stiff for her She replied with an offended tone: "no, why?"

Seriously not sure what people complain about. Its still easier than my DD LGT. Feels nice, much approve.

As soon as I get the nose bolted back on, I can take it for a spin and let you know what I think about the G4
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Am i right in thinking that an n/a BP is unlikely to shred a 6spd in an inordinate amount of time even with a harsh unsprung disk?
NA BP, I doubt you could break a 6 speed with that.
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NA BP, I doubt you could break a 6 speed with that.

That's what i'm thinking.

I think i'm going to give the HDR4 a shot.
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FWIW ZM1-XTG4

Just drove it around a few miles. Its not as nearly as on/off as people said it was, pedal pressure is fine. Stiff yes, but not difficult or tiring unless you have a knee issue or something. If it weren't for the wear associated with ceramic disc, I would daily. Engagement point moved much closer to the floor in a perfect spot for me without adjusting anything. After 5 minutes, with a **** tune, im driving it like the stock clutch.
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Thanks duder!

Going with the HDR4 though. Unsprung #yoloswag en route.
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Lemme know when you want to install.
I have a day off on a weekday sometime soon.
I can come down and tear apart your car in the morning if you want.
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Tear it apart then leave, right?

Lemme see when it'll be here and maybe we can figure this out. Honestly thinking about it, i don't see why this would take longer than 3-4 hours. I've already had the entire thing apart down to the point where all i needed to do was remove some transmission bolts. It's all fresh in my mind and everything has been apart recently.

And you can see how big Turbo (Kaia) has gotten. She's a riot haha. Loves Nimbus, the two are inseparable.
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Tear it apart then leave, right?
Naturally.

I figure i could get a head start. I want to do one for practice. It's been a long time since I've done anything clutch related.
I'd like to mess up yours before I do mine.
I can actually take off almost any day now.
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Naturally.

I figure i could get a head start. I want to do one for practice. It's been a long time since I've done anything clutch related.
I'd like to mess up yours before I do mine.
I can actually take off almost any day now.
Problem is that i'm daily driving this thing because totaled Cherokee and insurance company dragging feet. Friday early afternoon is the best i can do since i'll need to drive it again on Monday.
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<p>Sissy, west side ben and I did a clutch job in an evening.</p><p>Hardest part is pulling my downpipe.</p><p>U-joints, wobbles extensions, impact wrench.</p>
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<p>Sissy, west side ben and I did a clutch job in an evening.</p><p>Hardest part is pulling my downpipe.</p><p>U-joints, wobbles extensions, impact wrench.</p>
Pretty sure i could do it in 4 hours solo. But since that car is all that's keeping me from a no show at work, i should probably be as smart as possible with it.
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Concealer doesn't believe in impact guns.
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This is true, i don't like air tools. They might save me a good 10 minutes on this job, though.
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So 3 hours solo then?
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Those top bolts zip off with an impact.
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What top bolts?
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Top tranny-engine. You can break them loose with a bent 17mm wrench, but zip everything else off with an impact. Dropping the PPF is super nice too. Remember, the non-shouldered rear bolt goes into both holes, and a strong hit with a sledge pops off the nuts up top, to allow the PPF to slide off the diff.

I really wish you hadn't gone with the un-sprung though. I don't necessarily think it's about breaking a transmission, as it is about wearing it out. Think whining bearings and worn teeth.
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if it makes you feel better, I put probably 30,000 miles or so on an unsprung hub (twin plate) clutch with and without turbo and a stock 5 speed in my 01. Car did see track and lots and lots of stop and go insanity. Even with cerametallic plates, tranny was ok. Even when I did copious burnouts for fun to change lanes a little sideways in traffic.

PS these will help you get the top bolts on the trans. Just put the short ones at the socket end and the long ones at the other end and you can reach everything.

http://www.harborfreight.com/9-pc-wo...set-67971.html


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Top tranny-engine. You can break them loose with a bent 17mm wrench, but zip everything else off with an impact. Dropping the PPF is super nice too. Remember, the non-shouldered rear bolt goes into both holes, and a strong hit with a sledge pops off the nuts up top, to allow the PPF to slide off the diff.

I really wish you hadn't gone with the un-sprung though. I don't necessarily think it's about breaking a transmission, as it is about wearing it out. Think whining bearings and worn teeth.
Gotcha. I just had this PPF off for the diff swap so it should all come back apart pretty easily. I bet i don't even have to remove it all the way. I was getting some decent swivel action just by loosening everything at the back a little.

We'll see if the clutch was a bad choice. Honestly, if i wear out a trans every 2-3 years, it's not a big deal. This car doesn't see huge miles, and never will, and i'd imagine that driving it in traffic might be harder than track days, bro.

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if it makes you feel better, I put probably 30,000 miles or so on an unsprung hub (twin plate) clutch with and without turbo and a stock 5 speed in my 01. Car did see track and lots and lots of stop and go insanity. Even with cerametallic plates, tranny was ok. Even when I did copious burnouts for fun to change lanes a little sideways in traffic.

PS these will help you get the top bolts on the trans. Just put the short ones at the socket end and the long ones at the other end and you can reach everything.

9 Pc Wobble Socket Extension Set

Excellent, i have those extensions.

I ran unsprung disks in my old Civics with more power and weaker transmissions for years and never really had an issue. MX6 runs an unsprung disc as well without about 5x the torque this motor will ever generate, no issues. Those transmissions are way harder to find than Miata 6spds too.
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