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UrbanSoot 09-11-2009 01:13 PM


Originally Posted by Nagase (Post 452802)
Why ISC tophats over FCM?

cheaper

Savington 09-14-2009 02:34 AM


Originally Posted by Quinn (Post 451905)
Unless your running a 275, the advantage of the 9" over an 8" is negligible.

Spoken like someone who's never driven 9s.

Benefits of 9 over 8:
-they are faster
-they put more rubber on the road (tire sits square on the wheel)
-crisper steering feel
-less tire springrate
-more women in your bed

Quinn 09-14-2009 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Savington (Post 453699)
Spoken like someone who's never driven 9s.

Benefits of 9 over 8:
-they are faster
-they put more rubber on the road (tire sits square on the wheel)
-crisper steering feel
-less tire springrate
-more women in your bed

I have driven/tracked/own both. Yes, the 9's make a slightly better contact patch and have a firmer sidewall. Arguably, they are slightly faster. However, this setup is for this guy's wife's daily driver with some track time, not a race car. I am going to say judging by the OP's given information, an 8" vs a 9" for him and his wife is not going to make any difference. When a person is capable of driving their car around 9.5 to 10/10's consistently, something like a 9" over an 8" will show it's advantages.

225/45/15 NT01's over an 8" wheel on my NB.

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225/50/15 A048's over a 9" wheel on my Turbo NA. I currently have 225/45/15 NT01's on these wheels now.

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FRT_Fun 09-15-2009 02:55 AM

I have the FM suspension.. The ride height without cutting any of the dead coils is only a little bit lower compared to stock. The ride is better compared to stock IMO. I have 15X9.. think +35 offset.. only 205s, but not even close to rubbing/hitting anything. Personally I want something a bit more harsh as I don't care about ride quality very much now that it's not my DD.

akaryrye 09-15-2009 03:59 AM

Ok, I am the guy with tein basics. Dont get the basics. I just recently adjusted my ride height to 12.5f / 13r and now the ride is rather harsh (bump steer?), especially in the rear. I am considering getting some ISC tophats to give more travel, and I bet that will help a lot. Anyway, just thought I would throw it out there.

hustler 09-15-2009 08:14 AM


Originally Posted by Quinn (Post 453855)
I have driven/tracked/own both. Yes, the 9's make a slightly better contact patch and have a firmer sidewall. Arguably, they are slightly faster. However, this setup is for this guy's wife's daily driver with some track time, not a race car. I am going to say judging by the OP's given information, an 8" vs a 9" for him and his wife is not going to make any difference. When a person is capable of driving their car around 9.5 to 10/10's consistently, something like a 9" over an 8" will show it's advantages.

225/45/15 NT01's over an 8" wheel on my NB.

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225/50/15 A048's over a 9" wheel on my Turbo NA. I currently have 225/45/15 NT01's on these wheels now.

http://i142.phoket.com/albums/r103/j...t_filtered.jpg

http://i142.phot.com/albums/r103/jdm...t_filtered.jpg

shuddup, bitch. 9's are faster and you're a dumb bitch. The reason they're only "slightly faster" is because you're afraid to put it on the curbs. Savington is my bitch, and I'll be god-damned if you're going to mouth off to him without asking my permission. Next time you want to yap at him like a bitch.

tyson87 09-15-2009 09:31 AM


Originally Posted by hustler (Post 454233)
shuddup, bitch. 9's are faster and you're a dumb bitch. The reason they're only "slightly faster" is because you're afraid to put it on the curbs. Savington is my bitch, and I'll be god-damned if you're going to mouth off to him without asking my permission. Next time you want to yap at him like a bitch.



u always seem to gay things up a bit...

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2467/...fbb2baf9d6.jpg

Doppelgänger 09-15-2009 10:08 AM

Ohlins DFV custom....

Quinn 09-15-2009 01:49 PM


Originally Posted by hustler (Post 454233)
shuddup, bitch. 9's are faster and you're a dumb bitch. The reason they're only "slightly faster" is because you're afraid to put it on the curbs. Savington is my bitch, and I'll be god-damned if you're going to mouth off to him without asking my permission. Next time you want to yap at him like a bitch.


Oh look, it's Miataturbo.net's residential e-thug. I can't even begin to tell you how intimidating you are. :jerkit:

For the record, I wasn't mouthing off at Savington. I know who he is, what he has done, and have a lot of respect him and his driving. I wasn't even disagreeing with him. Like I said, for the OP's scenario, the 9's are not needed. If it is his Wife's daily, there is a pretty damn good chance she is not going to be running around on some NT01's or other insert R-Compound tire here

Savington 09-15-2009 03:26 PM

I actually agree. For his purpose, the 9s probably aren't necessary, but there's no real downside to having them, either.

UrbanSoot 09-15-2009 03:39 PM


Originally Posted by Savington (Post 454380)
I actually agree. For his purpose, the 9s probably aren't necessary, but there's no real downside to having them, either.

for daily driver and occasional track car i would run 7" wheels. less weight = better gas mileage.

Nagase 09-15-2009 10:39 PM

I wouldn't go more than 205's on 7 inch rims. You can put a lot more on there, but the feeling goes to hell... and a good feeling car is why many of us bought Miatas.

UrbanSoot 09-16-2009 03:25 AM


Originally Posted by Nagase (Post 454527)
I wouldn't go more than 205's on 7 inch rims. You can put a lot more on there, but the feeling goes to hell... and a good feeling car is why many of us bought Miatas.

im running 225s on 7" wheel and it feels just fine. of course it could be better on an 8" but its good enough.

Savington 09-16-2009 03:27 AM


Originally Posted by UrbanSoot (Post 454390)
for daily driver and occasional track car i would run 7" wheels. less weight = better gas mileage.

Oh shut the fuck up.

Nagase 09-16-2009 03:35 AM


Originally Posted by UrbanSoot (Post 454613)
im running 225s on 7" wheel and it feels just fine. of course it could be better on an 8" but its good enough.

Good enough? The price difference for 7" to 8" is not much at all. With an 8" you get the great 6UL rim, besides.

20$ durashocks from Autozone will be "good enough."

Lifetime brake pads will be "good enough."

Overboosted power steering is "good enough."

Good enough? The term "good enough" is how GM got in the mess it's in. Drive a Cavalier, that's "good enough."

Asx 09-16-2009 10:16 AM


Originally Posted by Nagase (Post 452802)
Why ISC tophats over FCM?

FCM are just stock NB tophats, modded to take an NA shock, and with Shaik's bushing material. ISC is deeper and cheaper, Better for slammage with more travel. The family ITA car has ISC tophats sitting at IIRC 10.5" F and 10.75" rear. Plenty of travel on both ends. I have less travel on my NB with similar ride-height, NA shocks and FCM tophat


Originally Posted by webby459 (Post 452823)
You mean 550s for the front, right?

yeah D'oh

UrbanSoot 09-16-2009 12:58 PM


Originally Posted by Savington (Post 454614)
Oh shut the fuck up.

prove me wrong



Originally Posted by Nagase (Post 454615)
Good enough? The price difference for 7" to 8" is not much at all. With an 8" you get the great 6UL rim, besides.

20$ durashocks from Autozone will be "good enough."

Lifetime brake pads will be "good enough."

Overboosted power steering is "good enough."

Good enough? The term "good enough" is how GM got in the mess it's in. Drive a Cavalier, that's "good enough."

i agree its not optimal but ive got an insane deal on this combo and everything was brand new so i couldnt pass. it works.

Savington 09-16-2009 02:01 PM


Originally Posted by UrbanSoot (Post 454760)
i agree its not optimal but ive got an insane deal on this combo and everything was brand new so i couldnt pass. it works.

If you agree it's not optimal, then stop suggesting it.

UrbanSoot 09-16-2009 02:36 PM

i agree that its not optimal to run 225s on 7" but why would you want to run 225s on a daily driver anyways?

Savington 09-16-2009 03:05 PM

No turbo, so I don't expect you to understand.


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