Comfort with big sways vs more springrate
#1
Comfort with big sways vs more springrate
So everything I've researched tells me big sways with less spring should be more comfortable for a daily driver.
But I'm hearing that if I go with softer springs, I should stick with softer sways, or the ride will be bad.
Comfort, daily driving. Performance is a secondary, but want to make sure I stay off the bump stops as much as possible.
Setup would be Gen2 XIDAs 450/300, 15x9 + 225 rivals, and some swaybars.
Was planning on the 1.25" front bar and 14-15mm rear, and a 4.5-5" ride height.
Does this seem like it should ride poorly? Worse than if I went with 550/350 springs and softer sways?
In before: My over 9000/800 springrates ride way better than the unloaded dump truck ride I had with Koni/bilstein/lowering springs/etc so go high spring rate.
But I'm hearing that if I go with softer springs, I should stick with softer sways, or the ride will be bad.
Comfort, daily driving. Performance is a secondary, but want to make sure I stay off the bump stops as much as possible.
Setup would be Gen2 XIDAs 450/300, 15x9 + 225 rivals, and some swaybars.
Was planning on the 1.25" front bar and 14-15mm rear, and a 4.5-5" ride height.
Does this seem like it should ride poorly? Worse than if I went with 550/350 springs and softer sways?
In before: My over 9000/800 springrates ride way better than the unloaded dump truck ride I had with Koni/bilstein/lowering springs/etc so go high spring rate.
#9
But, springs and bars are cheap. Try your proposed setup as well as some different combinations.
I do think the tires are too sticky for the springs. I mean, they'll work, but I think you end up with something that works better overall if everything is balanced. Start by deciding how much grip you want (tires) then use springs and bars to match.
#10
you will get on the bumpstops no matter what. even at 800 lb springs you get on the bumpstops with sticky street tires. On the street its a no brainer, bumps in the road will get you on the stops. especially at your expected ride height, you aren't exactly leaving a lot of space. Generally 4.5" and lower are used on track because the pavement is smooth.
I think your setup is fine, but I would run stiffer springs as they are probably more suited to the shock valving.
I think your setup is fine, but I would run stiffer springs as they are probably more suited to the shock valving.
#11
Good dampers matched with the right springs makes the most difference to ride quality. Sways are nice for controlling body roll without adding too much more spring rate. I think your chosen setup will be fine for daily driving and the occasional autocross, but 15x9s can be a bit much for daily driving and your ride height is low so if your roads have problems then you'll be on the bumps no matter what. Do you have an NA or NB?
#14
Nope. Another pair. I liked the first ones so much I'd like to get another. Just not sure what rates. Driving about on 450/300 is close to the limit of what I'd consider comfortable already, which is why I put 'in before' in the original post. I'd be raising up this car higher than the other to get additional travel before bumpstop though, 4.5-5" is about as high as XIDAs go.
#15
How are you even able to stand the stock suspension? My dad's miata which the idiot PO had a brand new set of showa's put in by the dealer recently is terrible. Way harsher and with way more cowl shake than the 700/400 or even the 850/505 xidas. You should check if your current setup is hitting the bump stops on just normal bumps, use the ziptie on the shock shaft test. If you are hitting the bump stops, stiffer springs would make the ride more comfortable. And try turning the shocks down to full soft or 1 click off full soft.
Also possible that you just got a shitty set of ASTs. Out of the people who have/had ASTs that I've met in actual person I have the only set that didnt leak and or suck horribly.
Also possible that you just got a shitty set of ASTs. Out of the people who have/had ASTs that I've met in actual person I have the only set that didnt leak and or suck horribly.
#16
How are you even able to stand the stock suspension? My dad's miata which the idiot PO had a brand new set of showa's put in by the dealer recently is terrible. Way harsher and with way more cowl shake than the 700/400 or even the 850/505 xidas. You should check if your current setup is hitting the bump stops on just normal bumps, use the ziptie on the shock shaft test. If you are hitting the bump stops, stiffer springs would make the ride more comfortable. And try turning the shocks down to full soft or 1 click off full soft.
Also possible that you just got a shitty set of ASTs. Out of the people who have/had ASTs that I've met in actual person I have the only set that didnt leak and or suck horribly.
Also possible that you just got a shitty set of ASTs. Out of the people who have/had ASTs that I've met in actual person I have the only set that didnt leak and or suck horribly.