Wasn't clear? Meister R is somewhat of a meme around here. Dude hocking them doesn't understand how shocks work.
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Originally Posted by concealer404
(Post 1439017)
Wasn't clear? Meister R is somewhat of a meme around here. Dude hocking them doesn't understand how shocks work.
Anyone getting that much nut sucking on m.net makes me go hmmmmmm, so I was wondering if there was some good drama behind the comment. Time to widen my search parameters. |
There is. A big long thread on m.net unless it got nuked. Pretty fun read. Get out the popcorn.
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Originally Posted by concealer404
(Post 1439019)
There is. A big long thread on m.net unless it got nuked. Pretty fun read. Get out the popcorn.
https://forum.miata.net/vb/showthread.php?t=607387 https://forum.miata.net/vb/showthread.php?t=630579 Pity how "technological disagreements" are turned into "online bullying" as soon as bullshit alibaba crap is called out. Sigh. |
Originally Posted by concealer404
(Post 1439017)
Wasn't clear? Meister R is somewhat of a meme around here. Dude hocking them doesn't understand how shocks work.
Anyway I kinda still expect the v8R ones to be a better option than DIY bilsteins if you're buying everything new. I'm running MSM bilsteins with 600/350 springs and they're fine, but I still wouldn't buy all new bits to recreate them if I was starting from scratch - the cost is way too close to better options. |
Originally Posted by infinityedge
(Post 1439016)
Tell us what you really think.
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Originally Posted by Junkwhale
(Post 1439029)
Ah i missed all that- maybe they aren't worth it. :dunno:
Anyway I kinda still expect the v8R ones to be a better option than DIY bilsteins if you're buying everything new. I'm running MSM bilsteins with 600/350 springs and they're fine, but I still wouldn't buy all new bits to recreate them if I was starting from scratch - the cost is way too close to better options. The DSDs have been around for a long time, haven't really ever heard anything about them. They look like every other china/taiwan/korean coilover on the market. I think when you lumped them with Meister at first, you were on the right track. ;) But yeah. Easy buttons are nice. |
Having ridden on Konis, billies and XIdas, wait for the Xida GS.
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Xidas are worth the money, but I think it's silly for people to say "just get xidas" if you're just looking for a capable street/canyon carving setup on street tires. Yes they do ride better at higher spring rates and are far superior shocks, but a Bilstein setup is still a great way to go, though a bit expensive for buying all the bits new.
Finding a set of used Bilsteins in good shape is a really good way to do the budget billies while keeping them truly budget. |
You shoudl read up on the budget bilstein thread....but it's very easy to get a set done up for less than $500, I've done it twice now with new springs, bump stops and sleeves.
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The lack of mention of FM Fox setup is weird to me. I know only one person using those (in pretty bad roads) and his feedback was amazing.
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Two reasons for that:
1. We're all 949Racing sackriders 2. You can get the widely proven Xidas for about the same money. |
3) Not much data on the Fox
4) Mixed reviews within what little data we have |
Rode in a KYata with Foxes and full aero on 245 RC1's and from the passenger seat they felt damn good. Not that that says much, but the owner is real happy with them. We had a four off excursion while clubbing baby seals and they soaked it up like it was nothing. Would be interested to test them out at street rates over less than ideal asphalt. As a recent Xida Gen2 convert I'm finding it real hard to argue with the hype train, though.
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Originally Posted by HarryB
(Post 1439116)
The lack of mention of FM Fox setup is weird to me. I know only one person using those (in pretty bad roads) and his feedback was amazing.
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I would also venture to guess the FOX setup is more geared toward street comfort and occasional HPDE/AutoX work vs livable on the street but really geared toward sticky tires and track work.
I realize spring rates, blah blah blah. |
Originally Posted by Braineack
(Post 1438685)
If it we're me, I'd just buy illuminas and FM springs
Originally Posted by Junkwhale
(Post 1438999)
If you're looking at xidas just for street ride quality, wait for the Xida GS when they come out- https://www.miataturbo.net/suspensio...-xl-ace-93581/ ~$1599.
I think the bilstein diy option really only makes sense if you already have the parts (i.e. bilsteins + at least some of the hardware/tophats). If you are going the budget option starting with nothing there's better options. Two to consider that are gonna ride better than the bilsteins and be cheaper than buying all the parts separately: Meister R CRD's @ $995 inc delivery: https://forum.miata.net/vb/showthread.php?t=607056 V8R's DSD coilovers @ $950: https://v8roadsters.com/product/dsd-coilover/
Originally Posted by x_25
(Post 1439103)
Having ridden on Konis, billies and XIdas, wait for the Xida GS.
Originally Posted by Bronson M
(Post 1439108)
You shoudl read up on the budget bilstein thread....but it's very easy to get a set done up for less than $500, I've done it twice now with new springs, bump stops and sleeves.
I forgot to mention my wheels and tires before, I have 15x8 6ULs with 205/50 RE-71Rs. Suspension is currently completely stock, however I do have frame rails and a roll bar. |
you don't need extended tophats. Just the "Stage 2" package would be a GREAT street setup. It's seriously a stupid comfortable, yet competent ride. I always recommend it for a street setup.
You can find the shocks elsewhere. But this is a set and forgot type suspension setup. there's no fussing with ride height or anything else. you put it on and forget about it. Summit Racing appears to still have them at $140 each F/R. |
Originally Posted by LaFonte
(Post 1439256)
I started leaning towards this, quick an easy, people seem to like them. I was thinking about the "Stage 2.5" from FM since comes with extended top hats and sway bars. I sent FM an email since it says they're on backorder, turns out they no longer carry illuminas for NA Miata's!
Originally Posted by LaFonte
(Post 1439256)
IAny idea on when abouts these will be hitting the market? I'm interested, I may send 949 an email about these
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Originally Posted by concealer404
(Post 1439093)
The DSDs have been around for a long time, haven't really ever heard anything about them. They look like every other china/taiwan/korean coilover on the market. I think when you lumped them with Meister at first, you were on the right track. ;)
Direct comparison to MSM bilsteins with 600/375 springs: https://forum.miata.net/vb/showthread.php?t=602283 And a couple of reviews: https://forum.miata.net/vb/showthread.php?t=582137 |
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