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Old 04-22-2010, 03:49 PM   #41
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I still might try it this summer. I plan on doing bodywork / paint/ wheels anyway.. Id run some 16 x 9 wheels with a 25mm spacer and some flaresall around so i can have big *** brakes.

I just need to find wheels I actually like in 16"
Tire offerings in the 16" size really blow.

Besides, these calipers would fit 15" wheels, they'd just have to be 0 offset.
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That's a shame. I was going to say though that .5" steel might be over kill, that's cereal plating. So are the wilwood calipers thinner, or only two pot? Contact cueball, he has mini calipers like bbundy, I bet he'd throw some spare change your way to make some good brackets.
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Tire offerings in the 16" size really blow.

Besides, these calipers would fit 15" wheels, they'd just have to be 0 offset.
I smell a goldmine.

1. Complete the retrofit and figure out what you need to do about brackets.
2.Find reliable suppliers and put together kits.
3.Market on Club Roadster.
4. Profit.
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I smell a goldmine.

1. Complete the retrofit and figure out what you need to do about brackets.
2.Find reliable suppliers and put together kits.
3.Market on Club Roadster.
4. Profit.
You know you might just be onto something there.

Curly, I think the wilwoods are just a lot narrower. These RX7 calipers are unusually humongous (width wise). From the rotor hat, they stick out 1 3/4" toward the wheel spokes. There is only 1 1/4" clearance at best to the spokes on my wheel from the rotor hat right now. Probably less.
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Besides, these calipers would fit 15" wheels, they'd just have to be 0 offset.
wheel offset has nothing to do with brake clearence.

its all wheel face design. you could still be +30 with a different face.
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wheel offset has nothing to do with brake clearence.

its all wheel face design. you could still be +30 with a different face.
I dont believe you when you say wheel offset has nothing to do with it. There isn't going to be any wheel face design that any of us would use that would clear these brakes with a reasonable offset. The spokes would have to come WAY outside of the edge of the rim or they would have to be so thin that they would surely not even last any amount of time at all.
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Have you tried spacing the wheel off with some washers to see if spacing a moderate amount (20mm to 30mm) will get the wheel far enough away from the caliper?

If so I have an idea that could be a solution to your mounting bracket....
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looking at the the tr motorsports wheels im fairly sure they can fit with a smaller spacer but still not enough to fit under stock body as far as this other mounting solution post it!!!

this place seems to have the best prices on raw materials that ive found so far http://www.onlinemetals.com/index.cfm
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just to give you guys an idea of how dumb *** wide they are i ran to the garage to grab a couple quick pics of the 1.6 caliper and bracket next to the fc caliper

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I'm going yard hunting again! For brakes this time. I hope that they're cheap.
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looking at the the tr motorsports wheels im fairly sure they can fit with a smaller spacer but still not enough to fit under stock body as far as this other mounting solution post it!!!

this place seems to have the best prices on raw materials that ive found so far http://www.onlinemetals.com/index.cfm
Yes and that place is in seattle so I dont have to worry about shipping, I can order online and go pick it up at will call

By my rough measurements, calculations and precision eyeballing, I really think its going to take a .5" spacer to clear my spokes. Maybe thats not as bad as i'm making it out to be in my head. .5" is what, less than 20mm? Its just nuts how wide these ******* things are.
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0.5" ~ 12.7mm

The Pro Race 1's have ~2" from the mounting surface to the inside of the spoke near the hub. Going by the picture it looks like you'd need ~2.5" to clear the calipers.
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0.5" ~ 12.7mm

The Pro Race 1's have ~2" from the mounting surface to the inside of the spoke near the hub. Going by the picture it looks like you'd need ~2.5" to clear the calipers.
I measured ~1 7/8" from rotor hat to the very edge of the caliper.

Edit: also, there is more clearance to the spokes further out from the hub atleast on my wheels anyway.
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deciving part of that caliper is the little bump on the end of it im probly going to grind that down on the spare one i picked up tonight to see if any of that can be take away with out hurting but thats the worst part as far as fitment goes on wheels ive tried.

and as far as price just to give people an idea. i got 4 front calipers thats 2 left 2 right for 100 shipped on ebay and the one i got tonight was was $10 localy from a friend who has owned a few fc3 he said they arent worth much since most of the fc guys are doing evo brembos now and just to give an idea of how easy they can fit once we have a bracket fabbed to fit the rx7 brakes asuming we dont cut the stock mounts off...

http://www.rx7club.com/showthread.php?t=719567
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I measured ~1 7/8" from rotor hat to the very edge of the caliper.

Edit: also, there is more clearance to the spokes further out from the hub atleast on my wheels anyway.
Oops, I missed that the first time you mentioned it. So thats ~1 7/8" from the top of the hat where the wheel meets the rotor or from the rotor pad surface?

My wheels do the same. I went with close in because it looks like the caliper is still thick near the hub.
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I dont believe you when you say wheel offset has nothing to do with it. There isn't going to be any wheel face design that any of us would use that would clear these brakes with a reasonable offset. The spokes would have to come WAY outside of the edge of the rim or they would have to be so thin that they would surely not even last any amount of time at all.
Believe it or not, you can do it.
For example... look at those pictured XXR wheels in this thread... they are 0 offset and stick out past the lip. (face design)
where the same spec of wheel in a different face and hub mounting design with a straight spoke (say XXR 002) has considerably less bbk clearence.


You could get a 6ul spec'd wheel with bbk clearence by adding to the mounting surface (similar to a spacer without the shittiness of a spacer), but your face would be closer to the exterior of the wheel.

1.75" is quite a bit to do on a track spec wheel, but not impossible (you just wont have a lip, the spokes will be even with the face like a honda wheel.
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Oops, I missed that the first time you mentioned it. So thats ~1 7/8" from the top of the hat where the wheel meets the rotor or from the rotor pad surface?

My wheels do the same. I went with close in because it looks like the caliper is still thick near the hub.
It is still thick there but as Aaron mentioned, there is a little nub at the very edge that causes the most issues.

I'm going to bring a caliper to JayL's house on sunday so we can all try our wheels and see if anything fits and perhaps how much spacer would be needed.
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Anyone ever see the bolt-on brackets to retro fit the FC calipers that are sold on Yahoo Japan?
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Anyone ever see the bolt-on brackets to retro fit the FC calipers that are sold on Yahoo Japan?
think i seen them somewhere when browsing a few months back also seem to remember a price tag around $300 plus shipping
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think i seen them somewhere when browsing a few months back also seem to remember a price tag around $300 plus shipping
**** that noise. I'm done paying full price.
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