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Braineack 03-19-2010 05:17 PM

First I was like this...
 
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Took forever to get them at 12.5"F and 12.75"R



I drove home 25 miles; l then I was like this :td:


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I started feeling like I was hitting the bumps on some large potholes and dips in the road....looks like it's actually coil bind and the left rear spring settled like crazy compared to the right....FML

The fronts were fine.

Of course the 8" 250 lb/in springs are $79 each vs. $38.77 each

shuiend 03-19-2010 05:21 PM

BAN!!!

Looks like you need to be on clubroadster.

mgeoffriau 03-19-2010 05:23 PM

Damn, your car looks as low as mine. Except I can't adjust my ride height (for now).

y8s 03-19-2010 05:23 PM

now who is laughing at my 10 inch 250 lb springs?

Braineack 03-19-2010 05:34 PM


Originally Posted by mgeoffriau (Post 541144)
Damn, your car looks as low as mine. Except I can't adjust my ride height (for now).

is your front higher than your rear? front is still around 12.5"...that left rear is probably under 12" starting at 12.75"


really it seems my options are: get new longer springs -$60-140, get FCM spring risers -$88, go back to the NA mounts & lose travel but increase height then sell ISCs +80, or slammage ...

mgeoffriau 03-19-2010 05:39 PM

Mine is pretty close to level.

shuiend 03-19-2010 05:41 PM

So when you switching back to the NA mounts? Since we all know since you can make moeny you will do it.

deliverator 03-19-2010 05:47 PM

I have 7" 250lbs springs in the rear.

And yeah, I have coil bind over big bumps too.


Buy these for $60 each and, as thanks for my saving you $30, you can post again to tell me if they solve the problem.
H&R Race Springs 8" x 2.5" x 250lbs Spring ProParts USA

Braineack 03-19-2010 05:49 PM


Originally Posted by deliverator (Post 541161)
I have 7" 250lbs springs in the rear.

They're as low as they can go on the collars with the perches turned all the way down.

And yeah, I have coil bind over big bumps too.


Buy these for $60 each and, in as thanks for my saving you $30, you can post again to tell me if they solve the problem.
H&R Race Springs 8" x 2.5" x 250lbs Spring ProParts USA


so you must be like hella slammed...are you on the iscracing tophats?

better springs at better price (thank to my friend y8s): www.pitstopusa.com - Detail


the worst part of this is that i wanted a better ride quality from my 550/300...turns out the insulators were preventing the bumps from traveling all the wya up and i was missing out on about 1.5" of shock travel. I left the 550s on and put the 250s in the rear and drove around and it was so improved. i think if i had just kept the 550/300 combo and installed them correctly I wouldn't have even be in this situation.

ordering new springs as we speak.

(2) 250# lb. 7" QA1s for sale - $55 shipped.
(2) 391# lb. 8" STANCE springs for sale - $55 shipped.

Braineack 03-19-2010 05:55 PM

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now check this stupid shit out. im so fail.

https://www.miataturbo.net/forum/att...1&d=1269035673

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for some reason i thought those insulators were hollow and the bump would travel through them...dunno why i assumed that...look how much travel is lost.

kotomile 03-19-2010 06:05 PM

250 lb springs?

Must ride like a Cadillac.

Chapman 03-19-2010 06:21 PM

So you are going to run 400(7") /250(8") now? I can't believe there would be such a difference in the settling of the sides.

The isolator plus those little internal bottoming shock protector things must have been terrible! With just the weight of the car you must have been on the bumpstops in the rear.

You gained a shit-ton of travel with those isc hats! Probably like 2 1/2"(at least)!:eek4:

deliverator 03-19-2010 06:25 PM


Originally Posted by Braineack (Post 541163)
so you must be like hella slammed...are you on the iscracing tophats?

Lower than I want to be, that's for sure. Not ISC hats... oem NB hats. Using fatcat spring isolators (because the ebay isolators were way too bulky and cheesy. FCM's isolators weren't cheap, but IMO they're worth it.

I'll wait to order taller springs until your report back as to success or failure at regaining travel with a particular length. :-D

Chapman 03-19-2010 06:39 PM

Something must be wrong with that spring to sink so low. Confused. BTW I've seen people use cutting boards (the plastic ones) as spring spacers. It sounds a little ghetto, but does hold up.

dgmorr 03-19-2010 07:29 PM

fak, I must be a ricer. I think my springs settled a lot over the winter.

cueball1 03-19-2010 07:35 PM


Originally Posted by y8s (Post 541145)
now who is laughing at my 10 inch 250 lb springs?


Nobody's laughing at your big 10 inch!

y8s 03-19-2010 08:39 PM


Originally Posted by cueball1 (Post 541197)
Nobody's laughing at your big 10 inch!

2.5 inch diameter. 250 lb/in stiff!

(yours at the right price)

Braineack 03-19-2010 09:58 PM


Originally Posted by Chapman (Post 541187)
Something must be wrong with that spring to sink so low. Confused. BTW I've seen people use cutting boards (the plastic ones) as spring spacers. It sounds a little ghetto, but does hold up.


I think it's where/how it's parked looking again, but i do think it settled more. They were slightly used springs, but I've always had an issue with the drive side being .25" lower.


The isolator plus those little internal bottoming shock protector things must have been terrible! With just the weight of the car you must have been on the bumpstops in the rear.
Yeah I had like no travel, I kinda wish I kept the 550/300 combo and had just known how dumb I was, I had never hit the bumps before until I fit those 7" 300s and it didn't make sense since I was actually sitting higher than with my 218# FM springs.

It did drive very nice, other than the bind...

oilstain 03-19-2010 10:11 PM


Originally Posted by Braineack (Post 541168)
now check this stupid shit out. im so fail.

https://www.miataturbo.net/forum/att...1&d=1269035673

https://www.miataturbo.net/forum/att...1&d=1269035673

for some reason i thought those insulators were hollow and the bump would travel through them...dunno why i assumed that...look how much travel is lost.

wut.

Seriously, whata tha fucka is goinz on here? What rear springs do you have? They look like they say 7-250, but you are ordering qa1 7" 250lb, won't you have the same problem? And did you really put a big rubber chonky thing on one shock but not both? Either way, from both of the spring pics it looks like coil bind is imminent.

esplain preas.

Chapman 03-19-2010 10:29 PM


Originally Posted by oilstain (Post 541251)
wut.

Seriously, whata tha fucka is goinz on here? What rear springs do you have? They look like they say 7-250, but you are ordering qa1 7" 250lb, won't you have the same problem? And did you really put a big rubber chonky thing on one shock but not both? Either way, from both of the spring pics it looks like coil bind is imminent.

esplain preas.

I believe this is a before/after comparison... He had all that other shiz on there and removed it to find...TRAVEL!:idea:
He linked an 8" 250lb spring in the rear.

Braineak,
The 400/250 should be a very good setup for the street with performance in mind. As long as your shocks a valved well and you work out the travel/ bind issue, it will me a mean canyon setup. Lots of grip on crappy surfaces.


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