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Rallas 07-01-2014 05:31 PM

HP+ pads on Dynalite calipers
 
Who runs HP+ pads on the street in their Dynalite calipers? The BP-10 pads do not cut it anymore now that I have gone turbo and am looking for better street pads. I have the DTC-60 for track so I am pretty much set on HAWK pads.

I had HP+'s on my Jetta a few years ago and they made the worst noise I have ever had, even comprared to full race pads I have used. I don't want to end up with that squeel again. Some occasional squeeking and dusting is fine.

I wish they made the HPS pads for the 7112 dynalite configuration, I love them in my other cars (for street).

OGRacing 07-01-2014 05:48 PM

I've street/ Auto-x driven on hp+ pads before. The performance is good for autocross, operating temp range is quite low, so they work well on the street. They tend to dust quite allot, if that bothers you avoid them. As far as hawks go, they seem to be the most streetable compound available in the hb100 shape.

Link to them on our sight Search results for: 'hb100'

We've got the hb100 pads in HP+ in stock.

curly 07-01-2014 07:52 PM

Mine still squealed, I'm not sure they're the pad for you...

What are the dtc-60s like on the street?

Rallas 07-01-2014 08:39 PM

I haven't tried the dtc-60 on the street, I though they eat rotors on the street. I don't mind some wheel. The squeel I had on my jetta was every time I hit the brakes. Sounded like I was running around on worn brakes.

soviet 07-02-2014 12:23 AM

I run porterfield r4s for street pads and i like them because >ZERO< squeal

decent amount amount of dust, tho. and no sparks

$64, too
Brakes, Safety Gear, Suspension for Street and Track - LPI Racing.

Braineack 07-02-2014 07:42 AM

HP+ = Dust, Squeal, and Stopping Power

Rallas 07-02-2014 09:36 AM

I don't care about the dust, I am painting the wheels gunmetal gray in any case.

If I run R4S pads or other manufacturer pads, do I need to resurface my rotors or run a seperate set of rotors when I use the DTC-60's for track use.

I used to run HPS street pads and rotors with Carbotech XP-10 track pads and rotors. I would much rather just swap out pads for a track day than the whole rotor and pad swapout.

Rallas 07-02-2014 09:37 AM

Does anyone have a set of HP+ pads with a little life left in them that I can get for cheap and try out? I hate to buy a $60 set of pads and hate them! AGAIN!

Oscar 07-02-2014 10:20 AM


Originally Posted by relte (Post 1145081)
I don't care about the dust, I am painting the wheels gunmetal gray in any case. If I run R4S pads or other manufacturer pads, do I need to resurface my rotors or run a seperate set of rotors when I use the DTC-60's for track use. I used to run HPS street pads and rotors with Carbotech XP-10 track pads and rotors. I would much rather just swap out pads for a track day than the whole rotor and pad swapout.

DTCs are aggressive enough to not give a fuck about existing transfer layers and will chomp right through them. You might even get sparks if you're lucky.

OGRacing 07-02-2014 10:54 AM


Originally Posted by curly (Post 1144994)
Mine still squealed, I'm not sure they're the pad for you...

What are the dtc-60s like on the street?

Your heading the opposite way on those. the dtc line is all race oly pads.

I can get you the PFC.10 compound for the 7752 pad shape. It retails for 54 bucks and has a higher temp range then a hawk hp+. It's a compound made for police vehicles, PFC will take them back if they dust and squeal. only problem is we don't have them in stock, so it's a special order.

curly 07-02-2014 12:19 PM

I know, but if I'm going to live with a squeal, I'd like good track performance too. HP+ don't do that.

codrus 07-02-2014 04:19 PM

If the BP-10s aren't enough, did you try the BP-20s? I use them for street/autox and am reasonably happy with them.

--Ian

Rallas 07-02-2014 04:42 PM

The DTC-60's I have are for track use only. I don't need a dual duty pad. I don't autocross. I just need something for the street that works better than BP-10 and is compatible with DTC-60's so I dont have to swap rotors when I go to the track 1-2 times a year.

OG, never heard anyone run the PFC.10's, ill look into it. Can you get HPS pads compatible with the Dynalite caliper?

Rallas 07-02-2014 09:35 PM

Anyone try the HB540F-490 HPS pads? These showed up on a summit racing search for forged dynalites.

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/hw...-490/overview/

joyrider 07-02-2014 10:37 PM


Originally Posted by relte (Post 1145082)
Does anyone have a set of HP+ pads with a little life left in them that I can get for cheap and try out? I hate to buy a $60 set of pads and hate them! AGAIN!

I do have a set, will send you measurement and pics tomorrow. You can PM me your cellphone and I'll text you those.

EO2K 07-03-2014 02:02 AM

Seriously, BP-10 are DONOTWANT. This thread is relevant to my interests as I'm still running them simply because I'm too lazy to swap them right now.

codrus 07-03-2014 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by EO2K (Post 1145296)
Seriously, BP-10 are DONOTWANT. This thread is relevant to my interests as I'm still running them simply because I'm too lazy to swap them right now.

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1404426519

--Ian

Leafy 07-03-2014 10:04 PM

I wouldnt want HP+s in the car. They dont have a high enough heat range to be used on the track and they suck on the street. The pedal feel also sucks donkey dick like all other hawk pads. I just threw a set in the back calipers of the racecar since they're so stupidly grabby they should bring my bias with the 01+ abs back to where I like it.

Dunning Kruger Affect 07-07-2014 09:02 AM

Yo Leafy, how does it feel to be wrong all of the time?

I am running the HP+ and DTC-60s on my Dynalites. I've run HP+ for years, and they're dusty and noisy as shit. It probably sounds like the world is ending to other drivers on the road when I am lightly on the pedal coming up to a stop. It's definitely less hard on rotors, but it's kind of a bad street pad.

Leafy 07-07-2014 09:04 AM

Dusty and noisy = suck on the street dumb ass. And the pedal still feels like you're pushing on a 2x4 duct taped to the fire wall.


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