Not to worry, MT is setup to steal everyones images and host them locally :party:

And yeah, I agree 100% with the Carbotech chart comment.

Great chart! EO2K, where were you 4 days ago befor I ordered my HP+ pads??? I did look at DTC-05/15 when I was looking around, but couldn't find any info on miata related applications. DTC-30 does look descent, but nothing seems to beat the cold bite of the HP+ pads.

Blame where blame is due: DKA posted it, I just fixed the image link :laugh:

I can't compare to the more aggressive pads but my set of Hawk+ have been great, amazing initial cold bite.
I took a chance on the dust and noise, they do dust but I was liberal with the anti squeal paste and the squeal is very minimal. Hardly noticeable a lot of the time.

Curly, what tires were you running on the track when you hated these pads?

I got the HP+'s on the car this past weekend and love the cold bite on these pads! No noise yet. I hope it will stay this way. I will have to report back after a few weeks. I should have never even tried the BP-10 crap pads. I have a lot more confidence in the brakes now.

I'm trying to decide if I want to pick up a set of these for my "street" rotors, but I've had no issues with the XP8s when cold, so :dunno:

I have been running the HP+ pads for about a month now. Performance is great and sooooo much better than the BP-10 crap. Initial bite is awesome. They do dust a little, but I have ugly wheels and will be painting the street set gunmetal gray in any case. For normal driving they aren't noisy. I only get noise when coming to a complete stop with cold brakes. It is not the hair raising squeel I had running these HPS+ pads on my jetta before. As soon as I put some heat into the pads they don't make a sound.

So far I am happy and can live with the little noise and dust they produce.

Thanks for following up on these. What kind of driving have you been doing? Just dailying them, or have you pushed them to any degree?

Mostly daily driving. I have been doing some more aggressive driving now that the clutch is broken in and plan on making a trip to the tail of the dragon over Thanksgiving. I am 100% confident that these pads will do anything you need to be doing on the street. If you fade these guys on the street, you are being a jackass and risking your life and the lives of others. Thats why I have DTC-60 pads for eventual track shenanigans.

I appreciate the extra info about these. I just got a f/r set of them yesterday and will be putting them on this weekend with fresh rotors, will see how well they hold up and if I need to slow down :D

Do the DTC-60s need a dedicated set of rotors, or will you be able to re-bed them on the same ones as these street pads?

I have not been able to take the car to a track day yet, but my understanding is that the DTC-60 will work just fine on a rotor with pretty much anything else bedded on the surface. It should be fine to run the DTC-60 on the same rotor and is what I was planning on doing.

One thing I want to know is if it is OK to then swap back to the HP+ pads on the same rotor after running DTC-60s. I have had bad experiences in the past with HP+ pads on my jetta when I just installed the pads and did not resurface or replace the rotor. Squeeled like a pig. Granted that was swapping from another brand street pad and not within the same HAWK line. I am sure someone on the forum has experience with this!