EO2K

iTrader: (37)

Not to worry, MT is setup to steal everyones images and host them locally

And yeah, I agree 100% with the Carbotech chart comment.

Rallas

iTrader: (9)

Great chart! EO2K, where were you 4 days ago befor I ordered my HP+ pads??? I did look at DTC-05/15 when I was looking around, but couldn't find any info on miata related applications. DTC-30 does look descent, but nothing seems to beat the cold bite of the HP+ pads.

EO2K

iTrader: (37)

Blame where blame is due: DKA posted it, I just fixed the image link

oregonmon

I can't compare to the more aggressive pads but my set of Hawk+ have been great, amazing initial cold bite.
I took a chance on the dust and noise, they do dust but I was liberal with the anti squeal paste and the squeal is very minimal. Hardly noticeable a lot of the time.

Curly, what tires were you running on the track when you hated these pads?

Rallas

iTrader: (9)

I got the HP+'s on the car this past weekend and love the cold bite on these pads! No noise yet. I hope it will stay this way. I will have to report back after a few weeks. I should have never even tried the BP-10 crap pads. I have a lot more confidence in the brakes now.

EO2K

iTrader: (37)

I'm trying to decide if I want to pick up a set of these for my "street" rotors, but I've had no issues with the XP8s when cold, so

Rallas

iTrader: (9)

I have been running the HP+ pads for about a month now. Performance is great and sooooo much better than the BP-10 crap. Initial bite is awesome. They do dust a little, but I have ugly wheels and will be painting the street set gunmetal gray in any case. For normal driving they aren't noisy. I only get noise when coming to a complete stop with cold brakes. It is not the hair raising squeel I had running these HPS+ pads on my jetta before. As soon as I put some heat into the pads they don't make a sound.

So far I am happy and can live with the little noise and dust they produce.

matthewdesigns

iTrader: (8)

Thanks for following up on these. What kind of driving have you been doing? Just dailying them, or have you pushed them to any degree?

Rallas

iTrader: (9)

Mostly daily driving. I have been doing some more aggressive driving now that the clutch is broken in and plan on making a trip to the tail of the dragon over Thanksgiving. I am 100% confident that these pads will do anything you need to be doing on the street. If you fade these guys on the street, you are being a jackass and risking your life and the lives of others. Thats why I have DTC-60 pads for eventual track shenanigans.

matthewdesigns

iTrader: (8)

I appreciate the extra info about these. I just got a f/r set of them yesterday and will be putting them on this weekend with fresh rotors, will see how well they hold up and if I need to slow down

Do the DTC-60s need a dedicated set of rotors, or will you be able to re-bed them on the same ones as these street pads?

Rallas

iTrader: (9)

I have not been able to take the car to a track day yet, but my understanding is that the DTC-60 will work just fine on a rotor with pretty much anything else bedded on the surface. It should be fine to run the DTC-60 on the same rotor and is what I was planning on doing.

One thing I want to know is if it is OK to then swap back to the HP+ pads on the same rotor after running DTC-60s. I have had bad experiences in the past with HP+ pads on my jetta when I just installed the pads and did not resurface or replace the rotor. Squeeled like a pig. Granted that was swapping from another brand street pad and not within the same HAWK line. I am sure someone on the forum has experience with this!