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Old Jan 7, 2014 | 11:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Savington
Doesn't matter how many exposed threads you have on the shock - the spacer moves the tophat down. New tophats would be extremely expensive as one-offs - probably something like $750, which is most of the way to the price of just having the shocks lengthened.
If the spacers lowered the AST hat would that cause the tire to rub more on it? As it is now I get slight rubber marks when running 245/580/15's on 10's with 5mm spacer.

How about flipping the AST hat upside down? That would lower the shock assembly and should still allow for the spring perch to work properly.

I like the idea of these spindles so let's talk more about it when I get back in town.
Old Feb 18, 2014 | 10:48 PM
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Aww snap
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Old Feb 18, 2014 | 11:15 PM
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I remember when these became commonly available for the VW Beetle / Ghia, for the sole purpose of achieving the "slammed" look (they didn't call it that then), despite the travel limitations of the stock torsion-bar front suspension.

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Old Feb 22, 2014 | 12:14 PM
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Funny you mention that Joe, I had Jatech Forge (one of the suppliers of the VW spindles) make me a set with disc brake spindles and an extra 2* of camber (which ended up right about -2 after alignment IIRC) for the Beetle I used to drive on track.

Worked pretty damn well actually... then again it wasn't "slammed".

Audi Quattro Club event I was instructing at, Portland Int'l Raceway circa 1997

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Old Mar 18, 2014 | 02:04 PM
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So does anyone know what wheels work with these? I just went and looked at my 15 slipstreams and saw that that have been grinding on my lower control arm. There is actually a indent from the control arm grinding off some of the wheel.
Old Mar 20, 2014 | 05:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Rennkafer
Funny you mention that Joe, I had Jatech Forge (one of the suppliers of the VW spindles) make me a set with disc brake spindles and an extra 2* of camber (which ended up right about -2 after alignment IIRC) for the Beetle I used to drive on track.
Very cool.... I have a '66 on a '69 pan that is all torn apart. Trying to decide what to do with it. Thinking about building it back as a track car. I've got a really nice 2110cc motor with Berg heads and whatnot on it that makes great street power... could be fun.

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I'll just leave this here.


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Old Apr 4, 2014 | 07:14 PM
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Can you post a review of them Emilio?
Old Apr 4, 2014 | 08:10 PM
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Can you post a review of them Emilio?
An hour after I received them? You bet.

My review:

Would buy for long term evaluation purposes again.

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Seriously though, we will no doubt form an opinion once we have had them on a car and beat on them for a while. That could easily be 6-10 months away. To really take advantage of them, one needs to have extended length shocks I think. I have a bunch of nice folks waiting for their gen 2 Xidas so my selfish desire for a set of one off extended length Xida doubles with electronic adjustable damping will have to wait at least until Summer. Then I can start seeing what potential the spindles have and how they work.

IOW, if you are genuinely interested in these spindles for your project, I'd suggest buying some and posting your review sooner
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Surprises me that I've had these for 6 months and you bearly received then now.

In the future leave the smartass comments to yourself.
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In the future leave the smartass comments to yourself.
Not gonna happen.

Just having some fun with your request for an instant review, as if that is a forgone conclusion. Don't take yourself too seriously, it's against the law on this forum. I'm guessing that your complete set doesn't look exactly like mine.

So since you have had yours for 6 months, care to share your impressions or data?
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Old Apr 4, 2014 | 10:17 PM
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Other than what I have already shared with the forum, there's not much more I can give. This car has been a very slow build, and it is still not running. Just don't have the time or the money to build the car I want in a few weeks. He offered the spindles around October for a great deal that I couldn't pass up. Saved myself a few hundred from the price they are now. Also it appears not much has changed from mine to the current production model other than a nickle coating and a emblem.

I know this forum is like that. I must have been in a bad mood earlier. I should be greatful that my comment made it to your signature.
Old Apr 5, 2014 | 02:29 AM
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I would buy them just for the weight savings, but I will wait until the ABS issue is sorted out.
Old Apr 5, 2014 | 03:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Reverant
I would buy them just for the weight savings, but I will wait until the ABS issue is sorted out.
Make new rings for the rear with the right number of teeth?
Old Apr 5, 2014 | 03:36 AM
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Find a way to retain the proper number of teeth for the fronts instead?

Messing with the ABS in any way does not work for me.
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^^^This^^^
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Or just machine new tone rings for the rear axle to match the MR2 hubs? Come on, guys.
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AFAIK the rears use the OEM ABS sensor. Ill check it Monday.
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are they going to make drift specific versions with shorter steering arms and dual rear caliper mounts?







This should stir the pot nicely.....
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Originally Posted by ctdrftna
are they going to make drift specific versions with shorter steering arms and dual rear caliper mounts?







This should stir the pot nicely.....
Why not ask them?
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