long pedal after sport-brake swap
I put sport calipers up front and now I have a long pedal.
Specs: 1991 car and master big sport brakes up front standard 1.8 rear wilwood valve pedal drops 1 inch then gets firm on the brakes bled the brakes all the way around, multiple times bench bled the master confused Time for a tilton pedal box? |
you has leak. abs?
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does the sport package have the same brake cylinder as regular?
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Originally Posted by Braineack
(Post 359118)
you has leak. abs?
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Originally Posted by neogenesis2004
(Post 359122)
does the sport package have the same brake cylinder as regular?
negative. I can handle more pedal movement, but not the 1" dead zone. I've read that the 1" drop is an air bubble issue, not master cylinder displacement issue. |
Hustler,get a power bleeder,it will makes things alot easier to bleed air out of the braking system.
It sounds like you have a big air bubble trapped somewhere. |
I agree spike, most likely in some of the funky fittings or wilwood valve. I've had this before where it seems like I have to drive the car for a while, then the air bubbles migrate to the bleeders...is that crazy?
Can anyone confirm this symptom to NOT indicate inadequate master cylinder displacement? |
this happened when i would bleed my ABS equipped miata. Air pockets would get stuck in the ABS unit, I would have to cycle the unit a few times before i could bleed to force the air out.
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I think the turbo is thugging the brake parts. I'll ask it nicely to stop.
On a side note, anyone have a link to good, affordable heat shielding for the brake lines and something to wrap around the valve? |
Originally Posted by hustler
(Post 359154)
I think the turbo is thugging the brake parts. I'll ask it nicely to stop.
On a side note, anyone have a link to good, affordable heat shielding for the brake lines and something to wrap around the valve? |
or search. since it's been covered in multiple threads.
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Originally Posted by Braineack
(Post 359160)
or search. since it's been covered in multiple threads.
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If you had the master off, it could not be adjusted properly to the pedal. IE-pedal "falls" till it takes up the slack and makes contact with the master, then it's brakes like normal.
Or you still have air in the master, which is my second guess. I doubt you bench bleed it well enough. +11113232 to a hand-held vac pump, as these make bleeding shit a lot easier. (read-you'll never do it without one after you try it) |
Also since you changed calipers, they could still have air in them. You should gravity bleed those too.
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I had this 1 inch slop before with the stock brakes, and the same one inch slop with the sport brakes.
Its like 1 inch of nothing, then firm pedal. From what I remember it was the same with another MT netters car, so I just learned to live with it. Braking performance has always been very predictable and consistent. |
Maybe I should lengthen the master cylinder piston and see what happens with the slop.
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Originally Posted by hustler
(Post 359261)
Maybe I should lengthen the master cylinder piston and see what happens with the slop.
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Originally Posted by Saml01
(Post 359262)
I thought that was only possible with the clutch master?
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Hustler,I suggest you get one of these,once you use one,you will never bleed brakes without one again.
Motive Products I have the miata specific bleeder. |
Originally Posted by spike
(Post 359347)
Hustler,I suggest you get one of these,once you use one,you will never bleed brakes without one again.
Motive Products I have the miata specific bleeder. |
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