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Old 04-26-2016, 02:45 AM   #61
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That's very true, well put my friend.
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asking for ride COMFORT input then calling someone a ***** for not praising a suspension that makes the car UNCOMFORTABLE is retarded.

do you want comfort or performance? you either get lots of one and some of the other, or vice versa. you don't get both. no one gets both. anyone that claims both is either lying, or has no idea what one of the two terms being discussed means.

that is all.

I love the xidas for their performance.
Not their comfort.
Comfort is relative. Xidas are more comfortable than any Tein product, for instance, despite having higher spring rates. Just because it doesn't ride like a Cadillac doesn't make it uncomfortable.
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Comfort is relative. Xidas are more comfortable than any Tein product, for instance, despite having higher spring rates. Just because it doesn't ride like a Cadillac doesn't make it uncomfortable.
I've never riden on Teins. How would they compare to the Vmaxx extremes?
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Teins ride pretty well. After trying 7,000 combination with my Koni Sport shocks and springs I threw Teins on and was pretty happy. Even with spring rates not quite great for a miata, and with a damping curve that had plenty of room for improvement, they were a godsend over Konis. When you hit things like speed bump you could feel the shock absorb the impact, stay off the bumps, and then handle the rebound very well.

Xida is the standard everything else is measure down to. They are one of the only shocks that were developed with a miata actually in mind.
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Comfort is relative. Xidas are more comfortable than any Tein product, for instance, despite having higher spring rates. Just because it doesn't ride like a Cadillac doesn't make it uncomfortable.
Of course it is, relative and subjective. That's why I speak up when I see it made out to be objective, no matter how much certain people may get mad about it.
There's a difference between telling people "it's comfortable for what it is, a race coilover" and "it's comfortable".
Have you driven on the new street basis? (or whatever it's called nowadays). It's not bad at all.
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I just hope the xidas give me a significant performance gain while maintaining decent composure on the street.
If this is what you're seeking then you should be very happy.
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Xidas are basically always "composed". with sticky tires, it takes serious effort to get the car to break loose. It just wants to grip.

Not for the weekend dorifto warriors
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What are you ladies going on about?

XIDAs on 800/500 on RComps is plenty "comfy" on the street. It never bothered me and I'm being a baby about my BRZ being on 255/35/18s and Ground Controls.
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I daily drive a Formula 1 car, anything else is just too soft.
Quit being vaginas guythz

If you don't feel like you're getting molested by a buffalo, sweaty, armpit stains, half a 40 in the passenger seat, lit cigarette in the overfilled ashtray, hard rock blaring through the 1 working speaker that's zip tied to a full roll cage, aluminum seats with no padding, 90 point harnesses, and gutted doors with half-gutted dashboard on your morning commute


.......you are a VAGINA
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Teins ride pretty well. After trying 7,000 combination with my Koni Sport shocks and springs I threw Teins on and was pretty happy. Even with spring rates not quite great for a miata, and with a damping curve that had plenty of room for improvement, they were a godsend over Konis. When you hit things like speed bump you could feel the shock absorb the impact, stay off the bumps, and then handle the rebound very well.

Xida is the standard everything else is measure down to. They are one of the only shocks that were developed with a miata actually in mind.
Yeah that's what made me so interested in the Xidas but that's good to hear. I had a dream last night where I got an e-mail confirmation saying it shipped out but then I woke up and realized it was just a dream...
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If this is what you're seeking then you should be very happy.
Awesome, that's great to hear.
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Xidas are basically always "composed". with sticky tires, it takes serious effort to get the car to break loose. It just wants to grip.

Not for the weekend dorifto warriors
I'm running 200TW star specs but it SHOULD be plenty of grip for the time being.
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I daily drive a Formula 1 car, anything else is just too soft.
Quit being vaginas guythz

If you don't feel like you're getting molested by a buffalo, sweaty, armpit stains, half a 40 in the passenger seat, lit cigarette in the overfilled ashtray, hard rock blaring through the 1 working speaker that's zip tied to a full roll cage, aluminum seats with no padding, 90 point harnesses, and gutted doors with half-gutted dashboard on your morning commute


.......you are a VAGINA
LOL I wish this quote was shorter so I could put it in my sig.
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If you don't feel like you're getting molested by a buffalo, sweaty, armpit stains, half a 40 in the passenger seat, lit cigarette in the overfilled ashtray, hard rock blaring through the 1 working speaker that's zip tied to a full roll cage, aluminum seats with no padding, 90 point harnesses, and gutted doors with half-gutted dashboard on your morning commute
.......you are a VAGINA
Accurate description of the Koni experience.
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Welp, I'm glad I didn't go with konis.
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FWIW - my progression through suspension setups over the years;
  • First was the stock 10AE (Bilstein HD's, I think) - barely adequate, but better'n the Ford Tempo that was my previous car.
  • Swapped the stock setup for AGX adjustables - what a freaking mistake that was! Nothing would make those things work!!
  • Put the Billie's back in w/ GC's around '04-'05 - better than the AGX's (but just barely). Thought that higher spring rates would "make everything better". Finally landed on a 700/400 combo - lost many fillings in the process. I thought that riding like an unsprung shopping cart was the path to handling nirvana (boy, was I wrong).
  • I knew there was better, just couldn't afford it. Settled for Tein SA's 'cause I just couldn't do any better ($$$-wise). Rode like a truck, but at least the adjustments could get rid of some of the ride harshness (not much, just some - enough to fool me at least).
  • Lusted for years for "something better". Ohlins's were beyond my pocketbook. FCM's seemed a bit...limited (I just felt that the absence of adjustment was a limit, no matter what everyone that had them said). So I landed on Xida's...save up my coins and get Xida's.
  • When the time came to buy, I had three choices; Xida's, Feals, or Fox's...
  • I bought the Xida's and am thoroughly satisfied. Set on slightly soft for DD'ing and they are (my idea of) plush and supple. Bumps that would have rattled my teeth with the Tein's almost disappear with the Xida's. It's not '60s Cadillac cushy, but I don't grimace anymore when I drive down the street. So far, with 2 AX events in the bag, I haven't yet felt the need to go any firmer than midway in the settings and the car is perfectly settled, doesn't wallow and more controlled than anything else I've been on...ever! I can't imagine a better suspension setup - there probably is, but I can't imagine it.
Just my $0.02
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That's awesome to hear, I love reading these good reviews about Xidas. It just makes me more and more excited to receive mine!
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I think I am going to go with the fox from FM. I saved my little pennies for the Xidas but the extra travel in the rear makes me wanna go to the fox. Xidas were my original suspension choice over the ohlins and a few other 2k set ups.
Dont ask me why anymore my mind has turned to jello after 3 months of hard research, reviews, pro/semi pro drivers and manufacturers opinions for coilovers. I threw in the towel and it landed on the fox.
I am sure ill be bashed for not going with our dear leaders suspension which is probably just as good. The moral of my post, spend 2k and you wont be dissapointed no matter which direction you go.
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I think I am going to go with the fox from FM. I saved my little pennies for the Xidas but the extra travel in the rear makes me wanna go to the fox. Xidas were my original suspension choice over the ohlins and a few other 2k set ups.
Dont ask me why anymore my mind has turned to jello after 3 months of hard research, reviews, pro/semi pro drivers and manufacturers opinions for coilovers. I threw in the towel and it landed on the fox.
I am sure ill be bashed for not going with our dear leaders suspension which is probably just as good. The moral of my post, spend 2k and you wont be dissapointed no matter which direction you go.
as long as you're happy with your really dumb decisions, good luck
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as long as you're happy with your really dumb decisions, good luck
haha.
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asking for ride COMFORT input then calling someone a ***** for not praising a suspension that makes the car UNCOMFORTABLE is retarded.

do you want comfort or performance? you either get lots of one and some of the other, or vice versa. you don't get both. no one gets both. anyone that claims both is either lying, or has no idea what one of the two terms being discussed means.

that is all.

I love the xidas for their performance.
Not their comfort.
18psi, knowing that you spent some time on FM/Illumina, IIRC, how would you compare Teins and Xidas in comfort to them? I've been pretty happy with mine - in fact I was surprised by their composure over these moon-man roads today after spending 5 months in a land-yacht Concorde on Monroes - but I haven't experienced a Miata on anything but Illumina and stock.

Is there comfort Nirvana to be found on Xidas (maybe on 500ish spring rates) or Teins?
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