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Old 01-07-2010, 12:20 AM   #21
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You want to do the longest line first to get the most bubbles, and then quickly do the others to get any bubbles trapped in the shorter lines along the way. The Miata runs the rear brake line down the passenger side to the passenger rear corner, then across to the driver's rear - the driver's side is "further" from the MC than the passenger side is. The fronts don't matter because they are each on their own individual line from the master cylinder - they don't share any fluid (except at the MC, and if you have bubbles in your MC no amount of caliper bleeding will help you).

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And now that I think about it, that damn dist. block is on the pax side
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Old 01-07-2010, 09:14 AM   #22
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Ronkonkoma here! I've got the Motive bleeder, and just bought the Miata mc adapter. My Miata is on jackstands in the garage, but I can move it and make room. Shoot me a PM if you want to come by.

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Thanks Man. PM sent well I guess the power bleeder is a good idea I am going to order myself one with the adapter for the clutch.
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I don't have a link. I used to work there. They had like 5 different brake bleeders. They should still have them.
Which one of these three on the HF website is the good one?!?

$5

$30

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The bottom one looks like the best value to me- as mentioned above you walk away with a true vacuum pump you can use for other stuff.
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The bottom one looks like the best value to me- as mentioned above you walk away with a true vacuum pump you can use for other stuff.
Yes, like fun sex games.

How do you use that thing? Do you pump fluid into each bleeder?
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It's a vacuum pump. I'm guessing you draw fluid out but wouldn't be the first time I'm absolutely and completely wrong!
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NOTE: for people wanting to do the Motive style unit. Here is a quicky DIY knock off of what Motive builds. DIY brake bleeder

The motive unit pressurizes the MC and pushes fluid through. The Harbor stuff draws fluid from the bleeders. Not sure which method is better but the cheese factor of building a Motive knock off is appealing.

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Old 01-09-2010, 04:44 PM   #28
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I am a pro Porsche Mechanic and I have owned the motive and a Miteyvac for years. the miteyvac is a great Diagnostic tool but bleeding with it is a messy pain in the *** on old cars and damn near impossible on ABS. The motive I would swear by. I have also dealt with the company directly to replace the little press. gauge on the bottle (jackass co-worker borrowed and dropped it) and they are a pleasure to deal with. In fact I use it instead of the $2000 Porsche bleeding pump. The motive is faster and easier.

Having sadi that a few months after I bought mine I saw the same bottle in ACE hardware (this is back when I lived in the states) and wished I had built my own. It is the exact same bottle, just different screenprinting on the side. The link Cueball gave looks like a damn good idea if you can be bothered.

The only complaint I would have is that I bought the kit motive sells to make it a quick change system, ie: switch from one adapter to another, so that I could use it on my VW bus and the Mazda, and it is useless. All they give you is the different screw on caps for the various brake reservoirs, each with 6 inches of hose attached, and a screw together fitting on the other end. And of course a screw fitting for the hose comeing off of the bottle. Don't bother with any of that ****, the fitting leaks unless you tighten it so much as to no longer be "quick change". I just attach the end adapter with a hose clamp to the hose and change them that way. The hose suffers but I have in the last 3 years using it professionally only cut back the end 3-4 times. And I have the "pro" kit so the hose is 6 feet long. Also for casual use the plastic adapter is fine. I have the metal one but one of my co-workers bought one after using (and dropping) mine and he got the plastic type for less. Holding up fine.
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Well I just placed my order with JSC Speed: Performance Parts Warehouse 120 shipped.

mtv1100 Motive Products 1100 Euro Adapter 20.00
mtv1820 Motive Products Catch Bottle 21.00
mtv0111 Motive Products 0111 Power Bleeder (90-05 Miata) 67.00

The Euro adapter is for the clutch.
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Blaize,

Nice input and review. I'm gonna DIY one like the Motive rather than spend the same money on the HF. I'd rather have one that blows than sucks.
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