Steering effort, FmDepower vs Line loop
02-26-2014, 01:18 AM
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Steering effort, FmDepower vs Line loop
Pulled my ps pump, got as much fluid out of the rack as possible. I feel that effort is higher on my car than what most describe.
How much of a difference in effort does removing the seals the FM way make over just line looping.
My caster is at 4.3 would bumping it down to 3.4 - 3.5 make a good difference? I also think maybe the rack preload may need adjustment
How much of a difference in effort does removing the seals the FM way make over just line looping.
My caster is at 4.3 would bumping it down to 3.4 - 3.5 make a good difference? I also think maybe the rack preload may need adjustment
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02-26-2014, 02:07 AM
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I dd a line looped 2001 with 4.5ish caster and it's fine for me...and I'm hardly a big guy.
I daily drove on rs3s for half a year which was noticeably harder at low speeds than the street tires I'm on now but neither was very hard. If you don't like it now, you never will. Either lift some weights or go back
I daily drove on rs3s for half a year which was noticeably harder at low speeds than the street tires I'm on now but neither was very hard. If you don't like it now, you never will. Either lift some weights or go back
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02-26-2014, 03:12 PM
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Having to use 2 hands at 20mph does seam way excessive. I know with my FM depowered when going less then 5mph I sometimes need 2 hands, otherwise all it takes is a little effort with one. Saying that I have no clue what my caster is currently at.
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02-26-2014, 03:20 PM
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Sounds like you done fucked something up, or you're a 70lb waifu in a cute little skirt.
I can one hand intersections in my improperly-depowered daily driver. 2600lb FWD nose heavy monster with 245 width 180tw tires. I didn't gut the rack, just removed the pump and cut some lines. I'm fighting all the seals, whatever dirt and crap is still in there, and a LOT more weight than you are.
Not a problem.
Oh, and i'm a small dude.
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02-26-2014, 03:25 PM
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make sure you looped the right lines. I looped the wrong lines the first time and ended up with a very spongy feel and a lot more effort.
No one likes to admit that mistake, but I find that a few people have done that.
With that said, its the two lines on the rack itself, not on the pinion. (and not one on the rack and one on the pinion either)
I have ran with looped lines and the cut seals. There was a slight difference, but not significant. Welding the rack is also suggested, I have a very slight slop when stopped. Not noticeable at speed though.
No one likes to admit that mistake, but I find that a few people have done that.
With that said, its the two lines on the rack itself, not on the pinion. (and not one on the rack and one on the pinion either)
I have ran with looped lines and the cut seals. There was a slight difference, but not significant. Welding the rack is also suggested, I have a very slight slop when stopped. Not noticeable at speed though.
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02-26-2014, 06:48 PM
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Sounds like you need a luxury car to me.
You should be able to go to a 245 or even 275 tire with 4-5 degrees caster with a depowered (and gutted) rack. The only real effort should be at parking lot speeds. If you are looking to whip into a parking place with two fingers while holding your non fat vanilla latte with your other hand, then I hold to my initial statement.
You should be able to go to a 245 or even 275 tire with 4-5 degrees caster with a depowered (and gutted) rack. The only real effort should be at parking lot speeds. If you are looking to whip into a parking place with two fingers while holding your non fat vanilla latte with your other hand, then I hold to my initial statement.
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02-26-2014, 09:42 PM
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Sounds like you need a luxury car to me.
You should be able to go to a 245 or even 275 tire with 4-5 degrees caster with a depowered (and gutted) rack. The only real effort should be at parking lot speeds. If you are looking to whip into a parking place with two fingers while holding your non fat vanilla latte with your other hand, then I hold to my initial statement.
You should be able to go to a 245 or even 275 tire with 4-5 degrees caster with a depowered (and gutted) rack. The only real effort should be at parking lot speeds. If you are looking to whip into a parking place with two fingers while holding your non fat vanilla latte with your other hand, then I hold to my initial statement.
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